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I think this gentle leason is appropriate for our discussion .
How would a group of blind men describe an elephant? They would describe it based on their experiences. But are never able to experience the elephant as a whole elephant.
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Is an elephant like a wall?
Is an elephant like a rope?
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I think this gentle leason is appropriate for our discussion .
How would a group of blind men describe an elephant? They would describe it based on their experiences. But are never able to experience the elephant as a whole elephant.
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Is an elephant like a wall?
Is an elephant like a rope?
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What the hell Mr. Miyagi? I’m not even in a food coma yet but still I’m unable to make sense of this....:confused:
 
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:( Sorry I was on my phone and it's hard to type and I should have put things into context.
Imagine a whole bunch of us observe the same paranormal phenomena.
We are all going to describe and react to the phenomenon in different ways depending on our experience.
The thing is nobody really ever gets to see the whole thing. But we see things according to our unique perspective.
In this case we are all commenting on a report of Paranormal Activity. Same principle applies.
The allegory of the Blind Men and the Elephant seems to be one of those stories plucked out of the collective unconscious. It is found in ancient India and Plato, and popularized by a 19th century English poet.
 

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:( Sorry I was on my phone and it's hard to type and I should have put things into context.
Imagine a whole bunch of us observe the same paranormal phenomena.
We are all going to describe and react to the phenomenon in different ways depending on our experience.
The thing is nobody really ever gets to see the whole thing. But we see things according to our unique perspective.
In this case we are all commenting on a report of Paranormal Activity. Same principle applies.
The allegory of the Blind Men and the Elephant seems to be one of those stories plucked out of the collective unconscious. It is found in ancient India and Plato, and popularized by a 19th century English poet.
Thank you for the context Paint. I get it.
 
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Total aside.
There is an approach to take with different information given in eyewitness accounts. It is probably a good thing because people are telling the truth.
A great example is the gospel accounts of Jesus. How does one explain the minor discrepancies when everyone was there? Well that also works with historical accounts of the Battle of the Bulge in WW2 and the traffic accident that happened down your street today.
All of the witnesses recall events according to their individual perception, bias, and human beings have a tendency to fill in gaps that really aren't there.:).
It's usually the fine details that get messed up. The human mind will fill them in. Real or not.
I had to give an eyewitness report to the police for a car accident/ fugitive report. Oh boy did I get a lot of stuff wrong.:p
The idea that there are major amounts of minor discrepancies is a good thing. That means everybody didn't sit down and try to get their story straight.:cool:
Again this is an aside on the subject of looking towards the truth of the matter. Those discrepancies are maddening, but they help you sculpt a skeleton narrative of the matter.:)
 

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Total aside.
There is an approach to take with different information given in eyewitness accounts. It is probably a good thing because people are telling the truth.
A great example is the gospel accounts of Jesus. How does one explain the minor discrepancies when everyone was there? Well that also works with historical accounts of the Battle of the Bulge in WW2 and the traffic accident that happened down your street today.
All of the witnesses recall events according to their individual perception, bias, and human beings have a tendency to fill in gaps that really aren't there.:).
It's usually the fine details that get messed up. The human mind will fill them in. Real or not.
I had to give an eyewitness report to the police for a car accident/ fugitive report. Oh boy did I get a lot of stuff wrong.:p
The idea that there are major amounts of minor discrepancies is a good thing. That means everybody didn't sit down and try to get their story straight.:cool:
Again this is an aside on the subject of looking towards the truth of the matter. Those discrepancies are maddening, but they help you sculpt a skeleton narrative of the matter.:)
I had to give an eyewitness report to the police for a car accident/ fugitive report. Oh boy did I get a lot of stuff wrong.:p Jessie Smallet much?
 

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I had to give an eyewitness report to the police for a car accident/ fugitive report. Oh boy did I get a lot of stuff wrong.:p Jessie Smallet much?
Red shirt and white shirt. Mixed up a few races too. What's funny is I can still see this scenario play out in my mind's eye. There was a jailbreak and a bunch of fugitives stole a car and crashed it in a tree right in front of my job site.
The cops were very interested in who was driving. I conflated one race with one t-shirt color.

But this philosophy of approaching history still stands. Develop the understanding of a skeleton of the narrative and go from there. It ain't exactly right but it's all we get from reports.
 
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