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Discussion in 'Your Paranormal Experiences' started by Herbal Jaguar, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Debi

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    Well done and well said, Darcy.
     
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    HJ it is totally understandable to try to find answers after a traumatic or dramatic paranormal event. I spent a lot of time trying to answer my own questions. But the farthest I ever got was that somebody has a name for it. And other people have experienced the same thing or something similar. I take a lot of comfort in that .
    A lot of brilliant people spilt lot of ink describing their journey chasing ghosts. A lot of humble people who led tormented lives searched for those answers as well. They are Saints because those demons were thrust upon them . But at some point the trail ends and you don't go any further. The American psychologist William James wrote in the late 19th century about the difference between the living and the dead as "divided by the flimsiest of screen's."
    I'm not sure if that screen is so flimsy when it comes to knowing what's going on. And I'm talking about the nuts and bolts mechanics of it.
    So I'll just get to the point in this is based on my experience.
    My search for understanding is understandable and natural. At some point I realized that I would have to accept that I will not have understanding. I have to continually foster that realization.
    Try to align your inner life with your outer life. This works both ways. Have you ever visited the home of a depressed person? It is messy and disordered and gloomy. It reflects the mind.
    I have always battled anxiety. That involves a racing mind that will latch on to a perceived future disaster and not let go.HJ, these strategies have worked for me and I have to tell you it takes decades to ingrain them as habits or become second nature.
    1. Develop self-discipline and strengthen the will. I do this to calm a racing mind and the mind will obey when I choose not to fixate on something. I do this with hard exercise, challenging books & a structured prayer life.
    There is a time and a season for all of this, and I try to follow the Catholic Church's Liturgical Calendar as best I can. There are times when fasting is required and I have found it liberating.
    2. The garbage in- garbage out principal. I cluttered up my mind with gory horror movies like Saw and watching Criminal Minds on TV.
    3. Question your own motivations. For what purpose am I doing this? And if I get what I want, what will I do with it?
    HJ, #3 is directed specifically at your question. All I can provide you are questions to ask yourself. Hopefully these are concrete steps that you can quiet your mind and not feed energy to a negative entity that is messing up your life.
    (Darcy, your a lodge sounds pretty cool.)
     
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    This may be your best post ever. Very good insight and advice.
     
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    That's a very interesting perspective and I thank you for it. You gave a lot of really great points that really got my mind churning. Sorry for your experiences and I wish you peace.


    I think that there is a big variance in the status of the dead, some are indeed busy, others more trapped, some have moved on, and others just come back when they want. That's my experience anyways. The true reason one would ever go to into a possibly dangerous paranormal situation, is to attempt to understand why certain people are attacked and others or not, how they are attacked, to attempt to understand a entity better to attempt to remove it, or to try and find a way to help use your spirit team and your abilities in a way to attempt to free the innocent spirits that are trapped by demonic entities. Which is what I attempted to do when I which I moved into a haunted apartment via serendipity or fate. We had very little to do with how we ended up in our last apartment. We were literally thanking the universe for what seemingly was a blessing just thrown in our lap perfectly at the exact time we needed it. But there is a time to fall back and recuperate to fight another day. And personally I find people who go into these places and try to figure out information for all of us, to be very brave and honorable. There is always naivety at the beginning, but your experiences reveal things to you at the times you need them it seem to me.


    I understand a human cannot free a spirit on their own, it requires a spirit team. But everyone but one person was working on a spirit team and had a spirit team before moving in there, and that one person went psychotic. But us 3 with the spirit team, we constantly were asking for our spirit team, archangels, oracles, prophets, celestial beings, everyone to come and save the people trapped here and to protect us. However we were still stuck there, being attacked in our sleep at night and during the daytime. We were stuck by contract, we were so desperate we were ready to break the contract, but thank god we didn't and we stayed strong to not effect my credit. We got EVP's of angelic singing saying "saving them". So yes I do think we had to call in angel warriors. We had to call in everyone, and even if it was a big deal for them, it was a big deal for us, we were suffering like I have never seen us suffer before. We had no say in what other people had done there or around us, all we could do is defend our hill. Even whilst defending we still tried to take extra steps to try and help the people there. And let me tell you, I would turn on the recorder and walk through the house and it would just be person after person after person after persons saying "help me" "help" "trapped" "help" "demon", as I would get to the back it would change to saying "murder" "kill" "satan" etc. So yeah the stakes were high for more than just us. We were absolutely fighting a battle, and to this day are, and angel warriors are my go to prayer, I dont feel like they are pissed off at me for what has happened, all I feel is love compassion and forgiveness. But one thing is for sure is even before that apartment us 3 were strong believers in the light. We were bringing the light everywhere we went, so in that regard we were already warriors. If anything we were called to that fight, as spiritual warriors, and boy did we fight. Every person in that house regardless of their hygiene got periodontal disease, we all said our teeth hurt. So yeah we were affected. In many ways, our car flooded, we were at war with the crack motel next door practically. But we lived through it, and 3 people have died there since I left so I think that is a testament to our spirit team. I've never experienced anything like that before and the only way to describe it was similar to a war or a battle. But we were dedicated members of the light, as a result we were viciously attacked, especially once we started cleansing and calling on our spirit team to free the souls trapped there. Even if we freed one person it is freaking worth it, but to get that EVP saying we had freed hundreds there through the work our spirit team and through our actions was incredible. And I just think no wonder they are so pissed off. M even said he had a contract with the demons to deliver souls on evp, and in the master bedroom the paranormal team had said there was a massive soul absorbing black hole that was in the hotspot for stealing souls. Quite the coincidence. He later told us he had failed his contract, and after that he was pissed! I did a lot of work with M to try and get him to switch sides and quit working with them but he never did, even though he apologized to me a few times, then would say " I changed my mind". It was like when there wasn't demons there he would get sad, but when they came he would have to act a certain way again. Also many times we would make contact with a human and the conversation would be ended by the inhuman. The naivety I was talking about earlier was in trying so hard to help M, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink, right?

    Even though I may be attacked if I had any part in the freeing of hundreds of people from that place it was worth it, and I just take it as a challenge to learn more and become stronger. But I realized from your posts that I need to stop reliving it, and I have already begun that process. And guess what? I feel better! I feel a weight coming off my shoulders. It's going to take more effort of course, but boy what a great feeling.

    Also this thread has gotten really deep, and I love it thank you guys for all your contribution this is awesome. So much information.
     
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  5. Mrs Cooper

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    Paintman, quick question. Have you been doing any warriorship for the Light lately? Helping an infested person? Battling evil concepts trying to take a foothold in society? Stuff like that?
     
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    I'm going to say yes with the caveat that I'm a pretty middle-of-the-road Catholic. Prayers for the living and the dead, and people's specific intentions. Prayers for the Forgotten and those who have no one to pray for them .The Chaplet of Divine Mercy is prayed at 3pm.Daily readings. Church on Sunday. Lots of Relevant Radio. Books.
    If someone is in a jam I will call on various groups of people to help pray. A bunch of Saints, People at my Parish. The Relevant Radio family. The Blue Army. The latter is a Fatima Society to combat communism and fulfill Our Ladies wishes from 1917.
    So Mrs Cooper, the answer is yes but in more traditional terminology. And for goodness sakes I am not very good at this. Only a few days a week will I get to everything. But everyday something outside of private prayer.
    I have to reiterate that I don't look for ghosts or go to psychics or mediums. There is plenty of that in my dream life.
    I had a friend who dabbled with all sorts of paranormal things and for his curiosity he developed a heroin habit. We had a lot of long talks about spiritual protections. He was also Catholic and realized that there is a treasure trove of Inward and outward protections.
    I got to ask though, I'm curious about why you asked me that?
     
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    HJ thanks for sharing and your intentions are true however I worry that you see the battle as yours. Forgive me if I’ve gotten this wrong. Sometime in our writing and reading the wrong message is conveyed. You are a blessing but remember this is gods war and make sure you only move into danger when directed by him. There is no way for us to understand these demonic entities. We only need to know that they lie and mean our destruction. This is just my humble opinion. The spirit you know as M may well be a deceiving demonic being. You can’t trust it.

    I’m so happy you are safe and doing better. I pray for your continued protection.
     
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    are you okay now HJ? actually i wanna comment alot but well my english sucks
     
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    Doing better now. thank you for asking. Every day is different it seems. Haven't experienced rage again since.

    I feel like I am learning a lot though still.
     
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    i dont mean to frightening you but if you wanna check if the spirit still attached to you, you can try silent meditation, dont think anything just like you stargazing, keep your eyes closed for about 3 - 5 minutes depend on how deep you can get to your silentness. Dont even think about spirit at all. Only after you finish the meditation try remember anything happen during your meditation, the voice that come, any inspiring idea, your heartbeat, the feel of goosebump, etc. If there is something else on you you can feel something really different. Do it spontaniously because they can read your mind
     

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