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Discussion in 'Your Paranormal Experiences' started by Herbal Jaguar, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Paintman

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    Again Darcy I really like the way you write words.:)
    Mandar's recent thread dovetails with what you were experiencing HJ. (maybe, maybe not.)
    And that is dwelling on your experience with a negative entity, or mentally or emotionally reliving the events. Revisiting a bad scene can soon spin out of control, and one thought can be beget another thought and another thought and on and on. And soon you are thinking in circles, going nowhere. It is almost inevitable thoughts can spin out of control and you will be opened up to the influence of a negative entity.

    In many ways this is a faulty defense mechanism. We want to think we can control negative thoughts with our own thoughts. And we can, but not in a mental state that looks like a blender. But people will double down , trying to control their own thoughts in the middle of that blender of thought. But that just sends that blender to a higher speed.

    This may not be the best analogy but that's all I could think of:(. I guess the point is just revisiting the matter can cause you to dwell on it. Dwelling on the matter can spin out of control. And then you have a cognitive and emotional vicious cycle that feed energy to a negative entity.

    One technique that I have used and seen work for others is to use a ritual. The point of the ritual is to put the matter behind you. It symbolizes that the matter has been thought about and dealt with as best you could. The memory of a ritual should help keep people from dwelling about the event.
    A good ritual will engage the senses and the mind and the emotions. ( Think of a full-blown high Mass Catholic funeral:), or the alcoholic who seen the light and busts up his bottles against the wall in the alley:))
    And yes this is easier said than done. The rituals success depends on your intent, not the specific mechanics of the ritual.
    My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.;)
     
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    Very good post, Paint. I have used rituals for years, and the ones I use most are for releasing things. It's hard to move forward without releasing the past. The best reituals are ones that the individual designs for themselves. It can be as simple as writing something down on paper and burning it to let it go or as extensive as candles blazing and 3 hours designed to impress upon the mind you are letting something go into the universe. Whatever works for you is a good ritual.
     
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    I think that is an excellent analogy Paint. Once you are in the center of that swirling blender it takes tremendous effort to get out because you are not in control of the on/off switch. Never were. Never will be. The only way out is literally to ascend up, up, up... though the muck and out the top.

    I don't know you know... There is a strange sort of addiction that come's with this kind of negative energy. Or maybe it is more like a tick who uses a sort of numbing agent as it attaches. By the time you feel the bite it is fully embedded. Then a vicious if short-lived shot of pain. Then the itch that insists on being scratched. You pull the nasty thing off but the head stays. 'shivers'

    I'm in agreement with Rituals. I think that when you use these ritual's you are acknowledging there is a problem and that is the first step in getting out. And asking for help from a Higher Power... however you may view it.
     
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    Thanks you guys I went to my mom about the ritual and the other things you guys were saying especially Darcy. They had rung true with me and I think that like any traumatic situation you keep thinking of it in many different ways some indirectly.

    She told me that she had a really bad experience with a house similar relatively similar to what I experienced and Darcy described. And that it had to take time to get better and for your mindset to switch from feeding that experience.

    I totally think a ritual is in order and I have done rituals like this before in the past.
     
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    I wanted to stop by for a moment before class and tell you, Herbal Jaguar, especially -- and everyone else listening -- that I mean these posts as warnings not as a reprimand. I would have NO right. Sometimes I come so 'out-of-the-blue' into these conversations that I can seem to be preaching or condemning and I wanted to make this thing clear -- especially in this situation.

    I think you would have to look very hard to find someone that has gone further down this rabbit hole without a specific intention to do so, then me. This is why I recognize the danger as separate from other post's on Activity like a bolt of lightening. I am immediately screaming "Don't go there! Don't go there! It's a trick! Here! Quickly! Take my hand... and with the help of the other's here we'll pull you out." I didn't have that support. That warning. It was all fun and game's in my world... until it wasn't, and then it was 'you're on your own -- we're out of here'.

    There is a vast difference in dealing with dark or negative 'entities' and dealing with the spring they drink from. Do You See? That would make an interesting thread in itself some day... but, not this day.

    I tell you as a Childe of The Light, that if you go far enough down that rabbit hole, The Guardian's themselves can't save you. Then they have to call The Angel's and Warrior's of The Light... and then it's a really big deal... because They have important stuff going on... and They are pretty cranky that They had to make a detour for a Childe of The Light who should have known better in the first place. It should be noted that They DO come. Just not in the best of mood's. :mad:

    Even then, the taint remains... and it sucks.

    If you came to my cabin today, you would find lot's of Cross's, Eagle and Hawk and yes, Owl Feather's, Holy Water, Sage and Salt, Cedar, Clove's, White Candle's, Loreena McKennit (Celtic influence for Light) and a poster of 'And He Shall Be Called'... along with various 'other'. A good friend of mine who is Evangelistic once reprimanded me for 'mixing religions'. I told her -- The Light is The Light and I'll pull and protect with every tool available... I'm not going back down that hole.

    As a side note: Steeping Clove's in water and rinsing your body with the tea help's elevate the 'pull' when things get dicey. Spreading Clove's in your area doesn't hurt either. This does nothing to fight the spring... but the negative energies that are drawn to it abhor Clove and The Light energies adore it. I don't know why. The Nature Spirit's offered me the information... not the explanation.

    My hand to The Creator that every thing I speak in this post is true and well intentioned.

    The Light Surround You and Keep You Always To Your Path. If you have need... just Whistle.
     
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    Did not feel that coming from you but I can see how it can be misconstrued. What really struck me is how I keep reliving the events even without me realizing it. Wow big mind blow. And I totally agree it has to do with the traumatizing nature of the events and my feeling of a need to understand what happened or why.

    Can you elaborate more on what you mean going down a rabbit whole that it can cause them to have to defend us harder. As in exploring the paranormal in general, exploring these specific locations or exploring communication with the dead? That a line exists between learning of spiritual tools and oracles and paranormal investigation? Makes sense to me just trying to refine the thought and make it more clear so I can fully understand it.
     
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    Great advice Darcy.
     
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    You know, when I first found this forum I spent some time wandering the Hall's and I thought... Finally! A place I can tell my story. At the very beginning of a Journey that would span over 30 year's and counting... I seriously considered the 'paranormal' aspect. Alien? Indian Burial Ground? Ghost's and Goblin's? I even spent some time considering Government experiment... But, in my deepest Child's heart I knew from the beginning ... This is Spiritual. This is War. This transcends. This is knee buckling, heart stopping... TROUBLE 'big big' here. So I had never visited a paranormal site looking to see if anything correlated. It's a lonely road this, so I searched and searched, all kind's of Spirituality's and far place's. Nothing. Until I fell here. And that was my exact intention. To tell my story. Then I didn't. I couldn't figure out why I spent all these year's looking for this place/comfort and didn't Speak. Your story.This thread...hit me like a ton of Bricks.

    To tell my story is to Speak it. Don't Speak It. Don't Speak It. Don't Speak it. That is the Mantra that hold's the last refuge of my sanity, my hope.

    But when Called on, I can offer help to another I feel is in danger by offering part's and thought's and a hand up. Truth's as I know or believe them to be. Part's of your post (which I came straight to as is the way) triggered the defense mechanism in me.

    There is nothing wrong with exploring the paranormal in general. So much truth has been stolen from us that it might actually be beneficial to search for ourselves instead of towing the line of the accepted thought. It's how you approach this search that matters. What are you looking for? How should the information be interpreted? What do you hope to gain from this search? In this particular circumstance I was speaking of 'area's/locations' ... exploring specific area's that we KNOW are negative... what is the aim there? The True reason we feel the need to do this? Communicating with the dead? NO. First and foremost it is not possible to communicate with the dead as we know them. The dead are busy and guided and guarded. Period. So who is it you are actually communicating with? How do you know? Spiritual Tool's -- Oracles -- Paranormal Investigation. These 3 things have nothing in common. So yes. A line exists.

    A human being can not bind nor free a Spirit without Spiritual Involvement/help. If you were told different you were lied to. If you think it's possible you need to rethink and become humble before The Creator. That thing is the Crux of The War between The Light and The darkness. The Light does not need us to free Soul's and the darkness only trap's them. Do You See? Make very sure who you are carrying The Sword for.

    Forget the investigator's and mediums and other. Know yourself. Pick a side. Stand.

    The greater your Spiritual Gift's the greater your responsibility. Debi is right on here.
     
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    I did not mean to cut that post so abruptly but there is intense energy flying here and I need to step away for awhile.
     
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    Darcy you have good insight here.
     

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