Fukushima radiation water

[Debi]

Japan plans to flush Fukushima water 'containing radioactive material above permitted levels' into the ocean

Japan plans to flush Fukushima water 'containing radioactive material above permitted levels' into the ocean

ater that the Japanese government is planning to release into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant contains radioactive material well above legally permitted levels, according to the plant’s operator and documents seen by The Telegraph.

The government is running out of space to store contaminated water that has come into contact with fuel that escaped from three nuclear reactors after the plant was destroyed in the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami that struck north-east Japan.

Its plan to release the approximately 1.09 million tons of water currently stored in 900 tanks into the Pacific has triggered a fierce backlash from local residents and environmental organisations, as well as groups in South Korea and Taiwan fearful that radioactivity from the second-worst nuclear disaster in history might wash up on their shores.

Tokyo Electric Power Co., (Tepco) which runs the plant, has until recently claimed that the only significant contaminant in the water is safe levels of tritium, which can be found in small amounts in drinking water, but is dangerous in large amounts.

The government has promised that all other radioactive material is being reduced to “non-detect” levels by the sophisticated Advanced Liquid Processing System (ALPS) operated by the nuclear arm of Hitachi Ltd.


Documents provided to The Telegraph by a source in the Japanese government suggest, however, that the ALPS has consistently failed to eliminate a cocktail of other radioactive elements, including iodine, ruthenium, rhodium, antimony, tellurium, cobalt and strontium.

Hitachi declined to comment on the reports on the performance of its equipment. The Japanese government did not reply to multiple requests for comment.

 

[Ronin]

Do you want Godzilla? Because this is how you get Godzilla.

 

[Debi]

Do you want Godzilla? Because this is how you get Godzilla.

I've been posting on Fukushima since it happened. Very few people seem to care, but I'm with you...this is how we get Godzilla. We've already affected most of the lifeforms in the Pacific with this stuff....although scientists are totally avoiding speaking about it.

 

[NobleHouse]

Japan plans to flush Fukushima water 'containing radioactive material above permitted levels' into the ocean

Japan plans to flush Fukushima water 'containing radioactive material above permitted levels' into the ocean

ater that the Japanese government is planning to release into the Pacific Ocean from the crippled Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear plant contains radioactive material well above legally permitted levels, according to the plant’s operator and documents seen by The Telegraph.

The government is running out of space to store contaminated water that has come into contact with fuel that escaped from three nuclear reactors after the plant was destroyed in the March 2011 earthquake and tsunami that struck north-east Japan.

Its plan to release the approximately 1.09 million tons of water currently stored in 900 tanks into the Pacific has triggered a fierce backlash from local residents and environmental organisations, as well as groups in South Korea and Taiwan fearful that radioactivity from the second-worst nuclear disaster in history might wash up on their shores.

Tokyo Electric Power Co., (Tepco) which runs the plant, has until recently claimed that the only significant contaminant in the water is safe levels of tritium, which can be found in small amounts in drinking water, but is dangerous in large amounts.

The government has promised that all other radioactive material is being reduced to “non-detect” levels by the sophisticated Advanced Liquid Processing System (ALPS) operated by the nuclear arm of Hitachi Ltd.


Documents provided to The Telegraph by a source in the Japanese government suggest, however, that the ALPS has consistently failed to eliminate a cocktail of other radioactive elements, including iodine, ruthenium, rhodium, antimony, tellurium, cobalt and strontium.

Hitachi declined to comment on the reports on the performance of its equipment. The Japanese government did not reply to multiple requests for comment.

The Japanese government just does NOT care. The quicker they can sweep this under the rug (or into the ocean) the better for them. It is OUTRAGEOUS that the other governments of the world are really turning a blind eye to this disaster. Perhaps they fear that they too, will have a similar incident in the future, so they don't want to cause waves.

 

[ozentity]

It doesn't surprise me with the worlds leaders seeming to only care about right now and their popularity, no thought for our future world,it really looks dim for humanity.

 

[Ronin]

It doesn't surprise me with the worlds leaders seeming to only care about right now and their popularity, no thought for our future world,it really looks dim for humanity.

Humans, as a rule, have a very egocentric view of reality. And that view tends to expand outward from smaller to larger:

me > family > community > tribe > etc

So when you're dealing with people, the closer someone is to self in that list, the more they'll actively support. In the modern era, we're dealing with societies of hundreds of millions of people. There are so many 'others' when it comes to peer groups that large nations are always in danger of balkanization when they lack an external threat focus.

Oh, and to make you feel better, we've passed the time of having a second chance in us as a species. All easily obtained large-scale source of energy have been depleted and won't renew until long after our species has gone extinct, whether from internal events, external events, or evolving ourselves right out of existence. If we don't get off this rock and spread before the next major global collapse, we never will.

/I lied about making you feel better
//perhaps quality baked goods? Debi made cinnamon rolls earlier

 

[ozentity]

Debi made cinnamon rolls earlier

Mmm cinnamon rolls.Thanks Debbi.

 

[ozentity]

If we don't get off this rock and spread before the next major global collapse, we never will.

Do you think we should colonize other planets,I think they would be ruined too in no time.I think we should go back to basics,live off grid and slow population growth dramatically.I live almost completely self sufficient,but do use fuel so I need improving too.

 

[Ronin]

Do you think we should colonize other planets,I think they would be ruined too in no time.I think we should go back to basics,live off grid and slow population growth dramatically.I live almost completely self sufficient,but do use fuel so I need improving too.

The thing with equality of condition is that the condition never gets better. EoC is a lowest-common-denominator by definition; you can't have people with differing goals pursuing those goals or it destabilizes that type of society. That's why communism never works and pure socialism is never even tried. In other words: extremism is a self-defeating goal, no matter what you're being extreme about.

Advancement requires two things: an excess of energy and a critical mass of population. Advancement is what would allow long-term 'off-the-grid' living to take place without misery. Crop failure, disease - even simple infections or injuries were deadly in times we like to think of as 'simpler.' It's been in the lifetime of some of the people on this site that polio would kill you. I listen to old radio shows and just today an episode of Johnny Dollar from 1960 had a PSA in it to get your polio vaccine. We're already at 7 billion people. If we went off-the-grid globally, you'd better be prepared to lose 3/4 of those people to starvation, disease, and conflict over scarce resources.

Technology doesn't make us bad stewards of the planet. Bad decisions do that. Just like you wouldn't keep a child in diapers forever because you have difficulty potty training them, you don't want to cut off humanity from growing because that growth comes at a cost. We can get better. Just in my lifetime (southern) California went from being a cesspit you couldn't even see for all the smog to an area where you can enjoy the outdoors again.

All that to get to this: yes, we should colonize other planets. It's part of our purpose, by virtue of being alive, to propagate. We are outgrowing our environment here and it's nearing time to expand to a new one, or die off because we're taxing our living space too heavily. We may build shiny things, but we're still a slave to the same pattern as, for example, a deer population. If they're not well managed, they die off, causing surrounding species to suffer from disease and lack of resources. The difference is we have the ability to learn to not do that in the absence of a competent predator.

Now whether we will is yet to be seen.But hat's the thing with a critical mass of population: we can get enough people like you to be concerned over what we're doing, and change things for the better.

 

[ozentity]

If we went off-the-grid globally, you'd better be prepared to lose 3/4 of those people to starvation, disease, and conflict over scarce resources.

I know it sounds bad but wouldn't that be a good thing for the planet and humans ultimate well being.It would be horrifying but the end result would be a better world for all living creatures.To me modern medicine is creating sickly individuals and raising the population immensely with highly dependant people who we can't sustain.I really think our quest for a perfect world is killing it for everyone and everything.We are becoming too intelligent and too successful.We can't become the locusts of our solar system.