Soul Stealing and UFO controversy

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    The UFO/Soul-Stealing Controversy | Mysterious Universe

    Many UFO researchers are reluctant to address the “aliens are stealing our souls” theory. It is, after all, one of the most controversial aspects of the UFO subject. The fact is, though, that there are far more than a few such reports on record. The problem is, however, that for so many in Ufology, the subject is so troubling and disturbing they choose to outright ignore it. One of the earliest – and most intriguing – cases on record came from a man named Paul Inglesby. His real name was actually Eric Inglesby and his 1978 book, UFOs and the Christian, was published under Eric Inglesby. But, two years later, he changed his name to Paul Inglesby and from then on answered to Paul (and as Father Paul: in 1980 he converted to Greek Orthodox).

    Just one year before the Second World War broke out in 1939, Inglesby – who died in 2010 – went down with a very serious case of malaria. So serious was it that for a while Inglesby perilously hovered in that mysterious domain between life and death. It was while in this limbo-like state that Inglesby had a frightening dream. Years later, he recalled how it all went down: it was an undetermined time in the Earth’s future and UFO-like craft were soaring across the fire-and smoke-filled skies of our ruined, radioactive planet and launching nuclear missiles at our major cities – killing billions and causing planet-wide destruction. The UFOs were not piloted by extraterrestrials, though, but by demonic entities whose goal was to suck out the souls of those killed in the fiery inferno, which was rapidly overwhelming the Earth and just about everything on it.

    For Inglesby, it was quite literally a wake-up call. The malaria cleared up, Inglesby came out of his unconscious state, and he spent the rest of his life pursuing a career in the church and warning people to avoid the UFO issue – fearing that it would lead people to become ensnared by malevolent demonic monsters, all of which Inglesby described in his aforementioned 1978 book, UFOs and the Christian.

    Inglesby’s story dates back to the 1930s, and it was in the 1950s onward that he began talking about his nightmarish dream – after he realized that what he had seen back in 1938 were images of nuclear explosions and “mushroom clouds” of the type that were all too familiar by the 1950s. It’s important to note, though, that the issue of a connection between UFOs, aliens and the human soul didn’t really surface to any kind of meaningful degree until the latter part of the 1980s – which takes us to the issue of Whitley Strieber’s bestseller of 1987, Communion.

    When word of Strieber’s planned book first got out, most Ufologists assumed that the book, in terms of its content and its theories, would be fairly akin to John Fuller’s The Interrupted Journey of 1966 and to Budd Hopkins’ 1981 book, Missing Time. Both books adhered to the now-familiar theory that aliens are stealing our DNA to save their waning species. Strieber’s revelations were, in many respects, far removed from the writings of Hopkins and Fuller, which is why the book created such a firestorm in those locales where ufologists hang out. As I saw it, though, Strieber’s book was a thought-provoking breath of fresh air.

    In Communion, Strieber made it very clear that his own encounters with “the Visitors” – and those of others he had spoken to – revealed a startling connection between alien abductions and the human soul; even a paradigm-shifting connection. In his book, Strieber talked about how abductees experienced their souls “dragged” from their bodies during abductions. Strieber himself was told by his abductors that they “recycled” human souls. That sounds quite comforting, as it suggests reincarnation may be a reality – something which will ensure us further lives after this one. But, was Strieber being told the entire truth by his captors? Or, was this an attempt on their part to push things down a different, more appealing path? Certainly, Strieber admitted something notable that suggests he recognized that not everything was good and positive.

    Strieber said that, the more and more he dig into the matter of his encounters, and as he tried to get a handle on what was afoot, he was unable to banish from his mind the theories of Charles Fort. For those who may not know, Fort was an acclaimed writer on all manner of paranormal phenomena. His books included Lo! and Wild Talents. Fort had darkly suggested that, in Strieber’s own words in his 1988 book, Transformation, we the human race, are “animals here for the slaughter and incapable of seeing the greater and more terrible meanings that surround us.”

    As for more on Charles Fort’s opinions, they can be read in his classic title of 1919, The Book of the Damned. Fort wrote: “I think we’re property [italics mine]. I should say we belong to something: That once upon a time, this earth was No-man’s Land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession, but that now it’s owned by something: That something owns this earth – all others warned off.”
     
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    This theory is once again being brought up in current books. So, are we just animals on a farm being harvested for our souls?
     
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    John Lear claims there is an alien built soul stealer/catcher on the moon. I find the fever induced hallucinations of a malaria sufferer more credible than Lear.
     
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    Lear started that quite awhile back, and since then some new authors have jumped onto this bandwagon. I think it was Lear that told Art Bell "don't go to the light when you die! It's a trap". Freaked Art out.
     
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    nah...that's just an alien dreamcatcher......you know, cause theyre scared of us too.....lol.
    not sure what to think of this theory / combination of aliens are demons kinda stuff. is it just a link to something familiar, (religion) because its something we don't understand or is it actual....
     
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    Let me put forth my theory from last night's show. We here on earth are rapidly going towards transhumanism and replacement by AI of our own making. If it keeps up, the human beings we are now, with a soul, may give way to beings without them....reanimated dead, cloned humans, genetically altered with implants, AI taking over, etc. These aliens, who may have once started much as we are, may have taken that path and are now beings without them. Perhaps they are looking to find a few for themselves.

    OR, the aliens are US time travelling back to get some souls because we did follow that path to transhumanism.

    Just a theory.
     
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    I have heard quite a bit on the theory that aliens are just the future us traveling back to observe the past......actually sounds quite plausible.
     
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    Here’s my take on aliens. I don’t know what they are but the fact that they take people against their will is evil. I don’t care how good their intentions might be. Violating free will is wrong period. There may be different variations of character among them like with people. They may be a race from another dimension or world but it seems they are kept from large scale interference. This reason is unknown to us. It may be spiritual or they have to follow some cosmic law. Perhaps they can’t live in our environment.

    Now here’s my gut feelings on the soul subject. I think they want what gives us our GOD connection. Without a soul they are disconnected from God. They may have dealings with the creator but they are damned to live apart from him and have no hope. Our soul is our most precious possession. How or why these beings lost their soul or perhaps were created without one is a religious debate.
     
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    It's a matter of perspective. If you have a zoo exhibit do you consider it evil to tranquilize and animal, bring it in for examination, and then release it? It doesn't mean that what they're doing isn't wrong, but it doesn't necessarily make them evil.
     
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    Good point but I was giving my opinion from my own perspective. I’m sure anyone doing anything can justify their actions. When their actions involve another party, that party is untitled to their opinion on the action. In a cosmic or god sense perhaps their actions are justified.
     

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