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You are welcome Lynne. This is really interesting to me so I hope to get more soon. I am glad that I found a place with like minds on this subject. Some people secretly believe but are afraid to make it known to others.
We are an open minded forum. Look around the library here. Debi has a lot of fun topics to explore.
 
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I want to make a suggestion to you. Please, when you are done with a session, please state to these spirits, "The door is now closed and we ask you to not contact us unless we open the door again and invite you to communicate." Closing that door is extremely important so the entities know you don't want constant communication or activity in your home.
 

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Hi Oigetit.

Before I get to the main reason for this post, I would just like to share a little bit of my background with you.

I am a UK Paranormal Investigator with over 25-years spent in this field. I spent 8-years working with Spirit Boards before moving into a more investigative role following a negative attachment. I spent many years capturing and analysing audio and visual evidence, and then more as an advisor and a 'make-up' investigator for other groups that were short on numbers. I have studied Demonology and Parapsychology. I currently run my own investigative group in the UK, and I am a member of some of the most respected associations within the paranormal field here in the UK (ASSAP, SPR and IAPI).

I am not telling you all of this to boast. I just wanted to explain my experience and knowledge in this field, as I need to ask you to listen to what I am about to discuss with you.

I have done some further analysis of the recordings and there is something I need to share with you........

When I first initially analysed your recordings, particularly recording number 3 in your post, I thought I heard something deep within the white noise. I did not want to say anything at the time as I was not sure. I was hoping that by analysing deeper, I could rule out what I thought it was as audio pareidolia. Unfortunately, I cannot.

I have to tell you that, in my opinion, you have potentially caught something negative in your recordings. I do not know what, all I can tell you, listening to the recordings, is that I have concerns. Not because you are doing anything wrong, but you may not be protecting yourself from inadvertently opening yourself up to this negative energy.

I have sampled a 15-second clip of the area of interest from the 3rd file (from 02:28.69 - 02:44.07 on the main timecode):



When you listen to it without any additional work, you can make out what appears to be three separate instances in the timeline of this smaller clip.

At 00:04.80, I have what appears to be something saying now get out - release me



From personal experiences and some of the observations made by others in this field, it is not generally found that positive energies request to be 'released'...... they may ask for help, to cross over for example, but never released. A negative entity will, and often do, ask to be released.

Slightly further on, I thought I heard a growl at 00:08.13, but after deeper analysis, I now believe it is saying
get out (1). This appears to be in the same vocal tone as that in the previous capture.

But it is the final capture that worries me - and it sounds so far fetched that, if you hadn't got it captured in your recording, I would expect people to think I was talking complete nonsense. Through what I believe it says, the length of it and the tone of it, I do not believe it is audio pareidolia. At 00:11.45, I believe what I hear coming from the recording is
backing the plan - Satan out (2).

What I can tell from all three captures, is that all three instances within the entire clip are made by the same entity and from its tone and the words spoken, it is coming across as negative in origin.


Now, reading through your posts and listening in detail to what you are asking in the recordings, you have mentioned things like doorknobs rattling in the house. This could be the start of classic poltergeist activity and you could feed it by communicating with whatever is present, whether directly or indirectly and unintentionally. There is no issue with you trying to communicate, but you need to try and reduce the risk of communicating with anything negative.

One of the simplest things that you can do is to burn black candles (making sure that if they are knocked over, they cannot cause a fire) in the area of your session, and some White Sage and/or Rosemary smoking in a herb burner. Also, open and close your sessions correctly, as mentioned already by Debi.

Black candles and those herbs I mention can be used to expel negative energies from within the area you want to communicate in.

With the herbs, have them smoulder in the herb burner. Before lighting, open a window in the room if it has one, or if not, the door, ensuring all other entrances/exits are closed. Burn the herbs for a bit (you can spread the cleansing smoke by wafting and dispersing it around the room) and then close any entrance/exit you have opened. This is the basis behind a cleansing (although there is more to it than this).

Once the candles are lit, you can open your session by stating, "Through the protection of light, we open the door and welcome forward positive energies only to communicate with us. We banish from this space all negative energies and those that may wish us harm. So is the protection of light". Once finished, close your session by that recommended by Debi, then extinguish the candles. Do not allow candles to burn out whilst conducting your session.

You will want to repeat all of this in any area you conduct your sessions in.

As far as the negative energy that I believe is potentially in the home goes (I say potentially as, I have not investigated the case myself and cannot say for any certainty, despite your recordings), I do not recommend you try to tackle this on your own as, by your own admission, you are quite new to all of this. If you know of anyone in a group, or can find a group local to you, ask them to come in and do an investigation. They may also be happy for you to get involved with the investigation if you ask them, but they should have the knowledge and experience to identify and deal with any negative energy. They may offer a cleansing and blessing of the property if they identify negative energy and cannot get it to move on through other means.

Please, just be careful. Communicating with spiritual energies can be both exciting and fascinating, but you could be going down a path that could trigger something else and could escalate any activity.
 

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Hi Oigetit.

Before I get to the main reason for this post, I would just like to share a little bit of my background with you.

I am a UK Paranormal Investigator with over 25-years spent in this field. I spent 8-years working with Spirit Boards before moving into a more investigative role following a negative attachment. I spent many years capturing and analysing audio and visual evidence, and then more as an advisor and a 'make-up' investigator for other groups that were short on numbers. I have studied Demonology and Parapsychology. I currently run my own investigative group in the UK, and I am a member of some of the most respected associations within the paranormal field here in the UK (ASSAP, SPR and IAPI).

I am not telling you all of this to boast. I just wanted to explain my experience and knowledge in this field, as I need to ask you to listen to what I am about to discuss with you.

I have done some further analysis of the recordings and there is something I need to share with you........

When I first initially analysed your recordings, particularly recording number 3 in your post, I thought I heard something deep within the white noise. I did not want to say anything at the time as I was not sure. I was hoping that by analysing deeper, I could rule out what I thought it was as audio pareidolia. Unfortunately, I cannot.

I have to tell you that, in my opinion, you have potentially caught something negative in your recordings. I do not know what, all I can tell you, listening to the recordings, is that I have concerns. Not because you are doing anything wrong, but you may not be protecting yourself from inadvertently opening yourself up to this negative energy.

I have sampled a 15-second clip of the area of interest from the 3rd file (from 02:28.69 - 02:44.07 on the main timecode):



When you listen to it without any additional work, you can make out what appears to be three separate instances in the timeline of this smaller clip.

At 00:04.80, I have what appears to be something saying now get out - release me



From personal experiences and some of the observations made by others in this field, it is not generally found that positive energies request to be 'released'...... they may ask for help, to cross over for example, but never released. A negative entity will, and often do, ask to be released.

Slightly further on, I thought I heard a growl at 00:08.13, but after deeper analysis, I now believe it is saying
get out (1). This appears to be in the same vocal tone as that in the previous capture.

But it is the final capture that worries me - and it sounds so far fetched that, if you hadn't got it captured in your recording, I would expect people to think I was talking complete nonsense. Through what I believe it says, the length of it and the tone of it, I do not believe it is audio pareidolia. At 00:11.45, I believe what I hear coming from the recording is
backing the plan - Satan out (2).

What I can tell from all three captures, is that all three instances within the entire clip are made by the same entity and from its tone and the words spoken, it is coming across as negative in origin.


Now, reading through your posts and listening in detail to what you are asking in the recordings, you have mentioned things like doorknobs rattling in the house. This could be the start of classic poltergeist activity and you could feed it by communicating with whatever is present, whether directly or indirectly and unintentionally. There is no issue with you trying to communicate, but you need to try and reduce the risk of communicating with anything negative.

One of the simplest things that you can do is to burn black candles (making sure that if they are knocked over, they cannot cause a fire) in the area of your session, and some White Sage and/or Rosemary smoking in a herb burner. Also, open and close your sessions correctly, as mentioned already by Debi.

Black candles and those herbs I mention can be used to expel negative energies from within the area you want to communicate in.

With the herbs, have them smoulder in the herb burner. Before lighting, open a window in the room if it has one, or if not, the door, ensuring all other entrances/exits are closed. Burn the herbs for a bit (you can spread the cleansing smoke by wafting and dispersing it around the room) and then close any entrance/exit you have opened. This is the basis behind a cleansing (although there is more to it than this).

Once the candles are lit, you can open your session by stating, "Through the protection of light, we open the door and welcome forward positive energies only to communicate with us. We banish from this space all negative energies and those that may wish us harm. So is the protection of light". Once finished, close your session by that recommended by Debi, then extinguish the candles. Do not allow candles to burn out whilst conducting your session.

You will want to repeat all of this in any area you conduct your sessions in.

As far as the negative energy that I believe is potentially in the home goes (I say potentially as, I have not investigated the case myself and cannot say for any certainty, despite your recordings), I do not recommend you try to tackle this on your own as, by your own admission, you are quite new to all of this. If you know of anyone in a group, or can find a group local to you, ask them to come in and do an investigation. They may also be happy for you to get involved with the investigation if you ask them, but they should have the knowledge and experience to identify and deal with any negative energy. They may offer a cleansing and blessing of the property if they identify negative energy and cannot get it to move on through other means.

Please, just be careful. Communicating with spiritual energies can be both exciting and fascinating, but you could be going down a path that could trigger something else and could escalate any activity.
Thank you for the guidance given, Titch! I totally concur with all said.
 

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Thank you for the guidance given, Titch! I totally concur with all said.
Yes thank you for your wisdom on this. Others will learn too.
 
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Thank you Titch. This just went from an exciting learning experience to a possible serious matter. I will take your, and everybody else's, warnings and tips to heart. I will not being investigating my house for a while in order to spend some time digesting all that I have been told. Without getting into a long story yet, I truly believe that some of these spirits have been here for around 60-70 years or more. ;th :)
 
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This brings me to another question that will help me. Does a "negative energy" always mean demonic or can it be something less than demonic ;confused2