New Defense Tech and UFO's

[Debi]

Carrier Group In Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech Like Nimitz In 2004 Incident

Carrier Group In Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech Like Nimitz In 2004 Incident
These incidents came a decade after UFOs appeared near a carrier group conducting large scale drills with an earlier version of this same capability.

Recently, new details have emerged regarding a series of still unexplained encounters that U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet pilots had with unidentified flying objects while conducting training missions off the East Coast of the United States in 2014 and 2015. The War Zone has already explored this new report in detail and looked at how improved radars had played a major role in detecting these objects. But what wasn't immediately apparent was just how ideal the situation could have been during at least some of these incidents for observing and recording the performance and signatures of potentially revolutionary flying machines under real-world conditions by the very best combined group of air defense assets on the planet.

The aircraft and ships present around the time these events occurred were equipped with the most advanced sensor fusion, networking, and computer processing capabilities available. In fact, collectively they represented the first time these capabilities were deployed across an operational Carrier Strike Group. This directly mirrors the peculiar conditions present during the famous "Tic Tac" incident involving the USS Nimitz, her air wing, and her escorts off the Baja Coast in 2004.

Prior to the latest revelations regarding encounters with Navy pilots that occurred just a couple of years ago, we dug deep into the 2004 Nimitz event, as well as the greater issues surrounding the topic and its strange resurgence within the Pentagon, in this expose which you should read for better context of the information we are about to present below.

Author's note/update: People are asking a lot of questions that are answered in the pieces linked above. Reading them is essential to understanding the full situation and the many variables and issues at play when it comes to this complex and quickly developing topic.

On May 26, 2019, The New York Times dropped the new details, sourced in part from on the record interviews with two Navy fighter pilots from VFA-11 Red Rippers – Lieutenants Ryan Graves and Danny Accoin – as well as off the record comments from three more aviators. Broader information about the events from 2014 and 2015 has been passed around as random facts and rumor for some time and the famous "gimbal video" is reportedly from one of these encounters, but the Times piece offers hugely significant additional context with actual names attached to it.

"People have seen strange stuff in military aircraft for decades," Graves told the Times. "We’re doing this very complex mission, to go from 30,000 feet, diving down. It would be a pretty big deal to have something up there."


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[Duke]

Carrier Group In Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech Like Nimitz In 2004 Incident

Carrier Group In Recent UFO Encounters Had New Air Defense Tech Like Nimitz In 2004 Incident
These incidents came a decade after UFOs appeared near a carrier group conducting large scale drills with an earlier version of this same capability.

Recently, new details have emerged regarding a series of still unexplained encounters that U.S. Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet pilots had with unidentified flying objects while conducting training missions off the East Coast of the United States in 2014 and 2015. The War Zone has already explored this new report in detail and looked at how improved radars had played a major role in detecting these objects. But what wasn't immediately apparent was just how ideal the situation could have been during at least some of these incidents for observing and recording the performance and signatures of potentially revolutionary flying machines under real-world conditions by the very best combined group of air defense assets on the planet.

The aircraft and ships present around the time these events occurred were equipped with the most advanced sensor fusion, networking, and computer processing capabilities available. In fact, collectively they represented the first time these capabilities were deployed across an operational Carrier Strike Group. This directly mirrors the peculiar conditions present during the famous "Tic Tac" incident involving the USS Nimitz, her air wing, and her escorts off the Baja Coast in 2004.

Prior to the latest revelations regarding encounters with Navy pilots that occurred just a couple of years ago, we dug deep into the 2004 Nimitz event, as well as the greater issues surrounding the topic and its strange resurgence within the Pentagon, in this expose which you should read for better context of the information we are about to present below.

Author's note/update: People are asking a lot of questions that are answered in the pieces linked above. Reading them is essential to understanding the full situation and the many variables and issues at play when it comes to this complex and quickly developing topic.

On May 26, 2019, The New York Times dropped the new details, sourced in part from on the record interviews with two Navy fighter pilots from VFA-11 Red Rippers – Lieutenants Ryan Graves and Danny Accoin – as well as off the record comments from three more aviators. Broader information about the events from 2014 and 2015 has been passed around as random facts and rumor for some time and the famous "gimbal video" is reportedly from one of these encounters, but the Times piece offers hugely significant additional context with actual names attached to it.

"People have seen strange stuff in military aircraft for decades," Graves told the Times. "We’re doing this very complex mission, to go from 30,000 feet, diving down. It would be a pretty big deal to have something up there."


More vids and full story at site

Same scenarios, new technology on first cruise? I had not heard that before, makes me wonder if someone was conducting an operational test of the ability of the world's most advanced radar systems (a decade apart) to detect the objects reported. For the first time, I'm starting to think the objects may be ours.

 

[Debi]

Same scenarios, new technology on first cruise? I had not heard that before, makes me wonder if someone was conducting an operational test of the ability of the world's most advanced radar systems (a decade apart) to detect the objects reported. For the first time, I'm starting to think the objects may be ours.

Wondered where you might go on this one. If those objects are ours, what the heck are they? The word "advanced" comes to mind, but to move at those speeds?

 

[Duke]

Wondered where you might go on this one. If those objects are ours, what the heck are they? The word "advanced" comes to mind, but to move at those speeds?

The human is the limiting factor in aircraft design, the body's ability to withstand accelerations being the primary issue. Take that out of the design equation and it's possible to design and build very high performance craft, although the speeds reported (if accurate) would seem to be beyond current technology.

I was never accessed into any unmanned programs, my specialty was aircrew emergency equipment and crash survivability. If no humans aboard, I would have had no need to know anything, would not have even been defensively briefed in on any such USAF program if one existed.

 

[Paulm]

Same scenarios, new technology on first cruise? I had not heard that before, makes me wonder if someone was conducting an operational test of the ability of the world's most advanced radar systems (a decade apart) to detect the objects reported. For the first time, I'm starting to think the objects may be ours.

Ive said/wondered that all along, too much in the situation that mirrors usual movements/maneuvers....( think wedge formation, basic patrol formation for inf. Teams, but also the basic formation for ships, planes etc....) The situation they were in also had the basics of LRS/Recon training....not saying those particular formations were used, just that the basics of all training are built from certain points, and this had quite a few of those points.... I would have to refresh my memory of the whole occurance to elaborate further but yeah, I have thought the same..

 

[Debi]

The human is the limiting factor in aircraft design, the body's ability to withstand accelerations being the primary issue. Take that out of the design equation and it's possible to design and build very high performance craft, although the speeds reported (if accurate) would seem to be beyond current technology.

I was never accessed into any unmanned programs, my specialty was aircrew emergency equipment and crash survivability. If no humans aboard, I would have had no need to know anything, would not have even been defensively briefed in on any such USAF program if one existed.

This whole thing is taking quite a strange turn. I'll keep my eye out for anything new popping on this.

 

[Paulm]

Here's my responce on the Nimitz thread... I still stand by this....


"The two fighter jets then conferred with the operations officer on the Princeton and were told to head to a rendezvous point 60 miles away, called the cap point, in aviation parlance.

They were en route and closing in when the Princeton radioed again. Radar had again picked up the strange aircraft.

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“Sir, you won’t believe it,” the radio operator said, “but that thing is at your cap point.”

“We were at least 40 miles away, and in less than a minute this thing was already at our cap point,” Commander Fravor, who has since retired from the Navy, said in the interview.

By the time the two fighter jets arrived at the rendezvous point, the object had disappeared.

The fighter jets returned to the Nimitz, where everyone on the ship had learned of Commander Fravor’s encounter and was making fun of him.

Commander Fravor’s superiors did not investigate further and he went on with his career,"




I underlined the parts of this article that stand out to me as being kinda fishy....... the fact that this craft was also heading to their rendezvous point really says a lot...as does the fact that the superiors of a nuclear battle group aren't to concerned with what could possibly be a hostile threat.....
The military works on a "need to know" system, which meens that these pilots weren't in the loop of knowing this info, but the commander was.....very well could have been some type of test run or operation..

 

[Lynne]

If this is our technology than its truly something amazing .

 

[Philosophicus]

I’m leaning towards thinking these were alien spacecraft. People have been spotting the white tic tac UFO since the 1950s. I read a story from a man who was on a fishing trip with his uncle in 1975 and saw a tic tac thing rise up out of the water before dawn and fly away. He they it was one of those things they didn’t talk about, and I don’t think he brought it up with his uncle again. They seemed scared.