ive went through more grills than i can count, both gas and charcoal. i finally built a cement grill that is huge..lol. the grill, counter and smoker area is 15 foot long by 3 foot wide, has a sink and everything...lol...not the prettiest thing but gets the job done and lasts more than a year or two....lolWe have a gas grill at the moment and don't use it enough. My son has agreed to give it a go. We'll see what happens.