Epiphenomenalism: one of the most disturbing ideas in philosophy

[Duke]

Epiphenomenalism: one of the most disturbing ideas in philosophy

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What is the point of our consciousness?

 

[Black Cloud]

Like the statue of "The Thinker," some people think too much.

 

[Debi]

Nope...Nope! If the premise is the mind is just in charge for our self preservation, my husband can prove that wrong with his track record of choices that almost killed him! Nope, somebody out there has too much time to kill coming up with this theory.

 

[Paulm]

Nope...Nope! If the premise is the mind is just in charge for our self preservation, my husband can prove that wrong with his track record of choices that almost killed him! Nope, somebody out there has too much time to kill coming up with this theory.

isnt it ironic that a discipline dedicated to "thought" would come to the conclusion that thoughts arent real????... lol.... but it does get deeper by causing deeper thoughts which is the way of "understanding life". thus the whole drive or push of "expanding the mind" to see past the borders or restraints of an every day ho-hum existence.
the basic understanding of this can be found in the ideas that we are a "Borg" type society. as you get older you realize how everything youve done has already been done by the generation before you. and that all people are the same at each point in life. you start to notice that everything you like or do becomes the trend or fashion soon..kinda like buying a white car and then noticing all the other white cars out there...lol...now is all the fads or styles just a push by the commercialism of the world or is all the commercialism caused by the collective thoughts of the world?...
we get up, we live our lives by doing the same thing over and over. we go to work, we shop, we do as we're told to an extent. the real thoughts are the ones where we see beyond the ordinary into the extra-ordinary and then we decide who we really are.

 

[Lynne]

I think there is more to consciousness than the mind and thoughts. It’s being self aware. The fact that there’s been experiments showing how intentions and awareness effect the environment proves this. The double slit experiment for example. We’ve all seen the results of prayers or intentions on impossibly ill people. The water experiments where intention and words spoken over the water effected the shapes of the water crystals when frozen. I believe there is enough evidence to make the claim that thought and intention effects the physical.

 

[TexDanm]

THAT makes my head spin... I KNOW that I think and am conscious but honestly, I sometimes am not sure that the rest of the people are not just figments of my imagination. There may only be ONE consciousness. If that were so then wouldn't that ONE be God? That is sort of what the Bible's "In the beginning..." is all about.

 

[Debi]

THAT makes my head spin... I KNOW that I think and am conscious but honestly, I sometimes am not sure that the rest of the people are not just figments of my imagination. There may only be ONE consciousness. If that were so then wouldn't that ONE be God? That is sort of what the Bible's "In the beginning..." is all about.

And now my head hurts....

 

[Benway]

Like the statue of "The Thinker," some people think too much.

I think, therefore I don't exist.

 

[Benway]

THAT makes my head spin... I KNOW that I think and am conscious but honestly, I sometimes am not sure that the rest of the people are not just figments of my imagination. There may only be ONE consciousness. If that were so then wouldn't that ONE be God? That is sort of what the Bible's "In the beginning..." is all about.

We are God trying to understand ourself and why he exists.

 

[ozentity]

Just trying to pronounce that epiphenom word is too much for me, lol.
I'm contemplating thinking about thinking, it's overrated, just get another drink in. Thanks Robbie, lol.