Physicists starting to suspect physical reality is an illusion

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https://www.disclose.tv/physicists-are-starting-to-suspect-physical-reality-is-an-illusion-364016

A world of mass hallucination
This new idea is basically saying that that the physical universe that everyone sees, all the matter, all the physical objects only exists because humans perceive it as that. ItBreitenberg (848532) resembles a sort of mass hallucination that is being used to make sense of the mathematical relationships of objects. While this does seem quite far-fetched, according to Kastrup, it’s gaining ground. To some physicists, this indicates that all the matter, with its solidity and concreteness, is an illusion that only the mathematical apparatus they devise in their theories is truly real, not the perceived world the apparatus was created to describe in the first place, says Kastrup.
 
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Everything old is new again...

He shrugged his shoulders. "I have known many gods. He who denies them is as blind as he who trusts them too deeply. I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom's realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer's Valhalla. I know not, nor do I care. Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson, and I am content. Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content."
 
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jadamz said:
https://www.disclose.tv/physicists-are-starting-to-suspect-physical-reality-is-an-illusion-364016

A world of mass hallucination
This new idea is basically saying that that the physical universe that everyone sees, all the matter, all the physical objects only exists because humans perceive it as that. ItBreitenberg (848532) resembles a sort of mass hallucination that is being used to make sense of the mathematical relationships of objects. While this does seem quite far-fetched, according to Kastrup, it’s gaining ground. To some physicists, this indicates that all the matter, with its solidity and concreteness, is an illusion that only the mathematical apparatus they devise in their theories is truly real, not the perceived world the apparatus was created to describe in the first place, says Kastrup.
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Thanks for posting this. I'm nowhere finished reading but the links from article and back to paper throw up things like:
"it is possible to write—as Lewis Carroll did—that the Cheshire Cat’s grin remains after the cat disappears, but it is another thing entirely to conceive explicitly and coherently of what this means."
Physics Is Pointing Inexorably to Mind
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"• What is herein defined as the soul certainly does exist.
• Reincarnation is possible, but not in ways previously imagined."
http://www.digitalphilosophy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/on_the_soul.pdf
 
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Benway said:
Thanks for posting this. I'm nowhere finished reading but the links from article and back to paper throw up things like:
"it is possible to write—as Lewis Carroll did—that the Cheshire Cat’s grin remains after the cat disappears, but it is another thing entirely to conceive explicitly and coherently of what this means."
Physics Is Pointing Inexorably to Mind
and

"• What is herein defined as the soul certainly does exist.
• Reincarnation is possible, but not in ways previously imagined."
http://www.digitalphilosophy.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/on_the_soul.pdf
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BENWAY!!!!!!

Hiya!!

I love all this stuff
 
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Ronin said:
Everything old is new again...

He shrugged his shoulders. "I have known many gods. He who denies them is as blind as he who trusts them too deeply. I seek not beyond death. It may be the blackness averred by the Nemedian skeptics, or Crom's realm of ice and cloud, or the snowy plains and vaulted halls of the Nordheimer's Valhalla. I know not, nor do I care. Let me live deep while I live; let me know the rich juices of red meat and stinging wine on my palate, the hot embrace of white arms, the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson, and I am content. Let teachers and priests and philosophers brood over questions of reality and illusion. I know this: if life is illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content."
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Hey Ronin...where is that quote from?
 
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I loved the point it makes.
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It's interesting insofar as what we're seeing now are the teenagers that saw the Matrix [1999] have grown up, become scientists, and are applying questions they asked their friends in those late night sessions to their fields of study; the interesting part isn't that they do so - we've known since the original Star Trek that science fiction inspires future scientists; no, what's interesting is that we're entering into generations of researchers with a hard science education rather than a classical liberal one. Lacking the exposure to philosophy that past generations have, they're reaching out for answers to existential questions in their own fields rather than traditional avenues.

If you have 6 minutes, might I recommend this video:

 
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