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Once again, I find myself drawn to speak of semantics and how we often get caught up in them when it comes to the paranoormal world. Owning this forum, I often see people debating points on things that are just mere interpretation of words.

In this discussion, I want to highlight the great debate of spirits, entities, ghosts and demons. As I referred to in another thread, we often approach guiding people here within their belief system. But I want to point out that in all honesty, we really don't know what these "energies" really are. We make assumptions on what is written in different holy books and also past history of dealing with these things. Yet, as of this date, we still don't have "proof" of what "they" really are. Just assumptions and descriptive words. .

I've seen the tendancy to lump all of them into one catagory when we really don't know that is the case. We all use descriptive words for them, which have their own meanings, yet we are all talking about the same thing.

Sometimes, semantics gets in the way of finding the truth. I have often thought the four catagories I've named may all be different things. Perhaps dimensional beings who are like cousins to each other who drift over the dimension lines to interface with us....some good guys and some bad guys.

I'm not eliminating God/Creator in this. The Divine One may be the creator of it all but that still leaves us with possible good guy/bad guys or alternate energies of light and or darkness. Even within the Christian religion, the interpretation of this is debated denomination to denomination. From a pagan or wiccan view, it changes again. Even from a scientific only view the phenomena, as it's called, is considered valid but misunderstood. Once again, we're all talking about the same thing, just with different meanings assigned to the words.

With this in mind, and please without lengthy Bible quotes, do you feel all entities fall in the catagory of demonic or do you also recognize that some may be spirits or alternate dimensionals? (We're not out to prove a point here, simply to exchange ideas on this theory.)
 
Well as you mentioned this is all on the basis of (my) faith in my case. That being said, while I do believe in angels, by far, most supernatural/paranormal encounters and all haunting involve jinns.

They aren’t spirits in the sense as being souls of the dead but are living beings themselves. They possess powers that are known for demons, like invisibility, not being constrained by physical spaces or distances, and of course the power to possess other people or objects.
 
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I believe there are ghosts, angels, demons, other pantheons and gods (gods which I don’t pay homage to personally) and other miscellaneous spirits that are so off the fringe You can only classify them on a case by case basis.
(for example I think aliens can either be carnal creatures, angels or demons and that’s gotta be determined on an individual basis, and shadow people you can classify them by the type of encounter you have)

And in those terms, I believe they are all different beings and I approach them (or refuse to approach) all differently if I encounter them.

I also believe that Jinn are different creatures altogether kinda like Soul said, but I don’t believe they are synonymous with demons.

I think the majority of spirit beings are interdimensional by nature, because many spirits can travel and communicate by means that arent exactly possible in the dimensions we as humans can comprehend.
 
And by ghosts I mean the spirits of the dead. I do believe many of us get stuff here for a handful of reasons and many people have been called to help these people find the other side.
 
Once again, I find myself drawn to speak of semantics and how we often get caught up in them when it comes to the paranoormal world. Owning this forum, I often see people debating points on things that are just mere interpretation of words.

In this discussion, I want to highlight the great debate of spirits, entities, ghosts and demons. As I referred to in another thread, we often approach guiding people here within their belief system. But I want to point out that in all honesty, we really don't know what these "energies" really are. We make assumptions on what is written in different holy books and also past history of dealing with these things. Yet, as of this date, we still don't have "proof" of what "they" really are. Just assumptions and descriptive words. .

I've seen the tendancy to lump all of them into one catagory when we really don't know that is the case. We all use descriptive words for them, which have their own meanings, yet we are all talking about the same thing.

Sometimes, semantics gets in the way of finding the truth. I have often thought the four catagories I've named may all be different things. Perhaps dimensional beings who are like cousins to each other who drift over the dimension lines to interface with us....some good guys and some bad guys.

I'm not eliminating God/Creator in this. The Divine One may be the creator of it all but that still leaves us with possible good guy/bad guys or alternate energies of light and or darkness. Even within the Christian religion, the interpretation of this is debated denomination to denomination. From a pagan or wiccan view, it changes again. Even from a scientific only view the phenomena, as it's called, is considered valid but misunderstood. Once again, we're all talking about the same thing, just with different meanings assigned to the words.

With this in mind, and please without lengthy Bible quotes, do you feel all entities fall in the catagory of demonic or do you also recognize that some may be spirits or alternate dimensionals? (We're not out to prove a point here, simply to exchange ideas on this theory.)

I think " semantics " is a good way to describe this.....and that religion gets in the way of seeing any other possibilities. Or the truth for that matter....you know, group A believes only what theyre taught and then they're taught that group B is wrong in they're beliefs.....same with groups C.D.E .F and G....lol....but what everyone refuses to see is they all have the same good guys and bad guys interacting with them....just under different names.......but when something happens we are so quick to jump right back to our religious teachings that we cannot look outside the box for any other explanation........what if its all alternate deminsionals, spirits, demons, everything...when we cross over maybe thats just another stage of life, and maybe a few have found a way back...what if its as simple as that.
 
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I think " semantics " is a good way to describe this.....and that religion gets in the way of seeing any other possibilities. Or the truth for that matter....you know, group A believes only what theyre taught and then they're taught that group B is wrong in they're beliefs.....same with groups C.D.E .F and G....lol....but what everyone refuses to see is they all have the same good guys and bad guys interacting with them....just under different names.......but when something happens we are so quick to jump right back to our religious teachings that we cannot look outside the box for any other explanation........what if its all alternate deminsionals, spirits, demons, everything...when we cross over maybe thats just another stage of life, and maybe a few have found a way back...what if its as simple as that.
Well in recent years I’ve really opened up my mind to new concepts and different practices. But at the end of the day I think I speak for any religious person here, I stick to my faith. So the best we can do is understand our differences and similarities so we aren’t divided. People might want to dislike the “others” all they want but that’s exactly what the elites want.
 
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Debi I agree we don’t know what all these things really are. I’ve found myself referring to these entities as being negative or positive. This is common verbiage we can all agree on. Regardless of what we call something we can agree on it’s behavior as being good or bad, neg or positive.
 
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Debi I agree we don’t know what all these things really are. I’ve found myself referring to these entities as being negative or positive. This is common verbiage we can all agree on. Regardless of what we call something we can agree on it’s behavior as being good or bad, neg or positive.
Perhaps we ought to use terms like positive or negative before we get into more specific terminology like hat man, demon, ghost, poltergheist, etc.? I’m really trying to ask more questions before making assumptions but I also tend to ramble cuz I think too fast :astonished:
 
Debi I agree we don’t know what all these things really are. I’ve found myself referring to these entities as being negative or positive. This is common verbiage we can all agree on. Regardless of what we call something we can agree on it’s behavior as being good or bad, neg or positive.
That we can, Lynne. I started this discussion just to get an idea of what you all think on this. Sometimes, to learn more about something, we have to tear it down to it's basics and take a look at it from a different angle. The energy is real...the entities are real, IMO. Just taking another look at the what the heck are they part of the program! lol
 
Oh and another thing, when it comes to words like “witchcraft” and “occult”, I like to be specific about that because they’ve kinda become blanket terms for anything pertaining to supernatural forces we don’t understand. I mean an occultist could be anyone from a seeker of hidden knowledge, a mystic, Kabbalist, to an actual sorcerer, but suddenly they’re all evil because of that one O-word. Semantics can be a dangerous thing.