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As a psychiatrist, I diagnose mental illness. And, sometimes, demonic possession.

As a psychiatrist, I diagnose mental illness. And, sometimes, demonic possession.

How a scientist learned to work with exorcists.
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By Richard Gallagher July 1 at 6:00 AM
Richard Gallagher is a board-certified psychiatrist and a professor of clinical psychiatry at New York Medical College. He is at work on a book about demonic possession in the United States.
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In the late 1980s, I was introduced to a self-styled Satanic high priestess. She called herself a witch and dressed the part, with flowing dark clothes and black eye shadow around to her temples. In our many discussions, she acknowledged worshipping Satan as his “queen.”

I’m a man of science and a lover of history; after studying the classics at Princeton, I trained in psychiatry at Yale and in psychoanalysis at Columbia. That background is why a Catholic priest had asked my professional opinion, which I offered pro bono, about whether this woman was suffering from a mental disorder. This was at the height of the national panic about Satanism. (In a case that helped induce the hysteria, Virginia McMartin and others had recently been charged with alleged Satanic ritual abuse at a Los Angeles preschool; the charges were later dropped.) So I was inclined to skepticism. But my subject’s behavior exceeded what I could explain with my training. She could tell some people their secret weaknesses, such as undue pride. She knew how individuals she’d never known had died, including my mother and her fatal case of ovarian cancer. Six people later vouched to me that, during her exorcisms, they heard her speaking multiple languages, including Latin, completely unfamiliar to her outside of her trances. This was not psychosis; it was what I can only describe as paranormal ability. I concluded that she was possessed. Much later, she permitted me to tell her story.

The priest who had asked for my opinion of this bizarre case was the most experienced exorcist in the country at the time, an erudite and sensible man. I had told him that, even as a practicing Catholic, I wasn’t likely to go in for a lot of hocus-pocus. “Well,” he replied, “unless we thought you were not easily fooled, we would hardly have wanted you to assist us.”

So began an unlikely partnership. For the past two-and-a-half decades and over several hundred consultations, I’ve helped clergy from multiple denominations and faiths to filter episodes of mental illness — which represent the overwhelming majority of cases — from, literally, the devil’s work. It’s an unlikely role for an academic physician, but I don’t see these two aspects of my career in conflict. The same habits that shape what I do as a professor and psychiatrist — open-mindedness, respect for evidence and compassion for suffering people — led me to aid in the work of discerning attacks by what I believe are evil spirits and, just as critically, differentiating these extremely rare events from medical conditions.

Is it possible to be a sophisticated psychiatrist and believe that evil spirits are, however seldom, assailing humans? Most of my scientific colleagues and friends say no, because of their frequent contact with patients who are deluded about demons, their general skepticism of the supernatural, and their commitment to employ only standard, peer-reviewed treatments that do not potentially mislead (a definite risk) or harm vulnerable patients. But careful observation of the evidence presented to me in my career has led me to believe that certain extremely uncommon cases can be explained in no other way.

Full story at site....very interesting!
 
I waver back and forth between believing my experiences are demonic in origin or UFO/Alien that also opened doors to other paranormal realms. Damn, I wish I knew for sure as finding a way to stop these surreal experiences would be wonderful, especially before my present wife or child has to share one with me...It doesn't go well for relationships, my first wife left me scared and bewildered.
 
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I waver back and forth between believing my experiences are demonic in origin or UFO/Alien that also opened doors to other paranormal realms. Damn, I wish I knew for sure as finding a way to stop these surreal experiences would be wonderful, especially before my present wife or child has to share one with me...It doesn't go well for relationships, my first wife left me scared and bewildered.
Those of us who are unique in different ways often find ourselves without answers. They key is to keep living and loving fearlessly while looking for those answers, Grant.
 
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Please explain your most prolific experience from beginning to end .
 
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Those of us who are unique in different ways often find ourselves without answers. They key is to keep living and loving fearlessly while looking for those answers, Grant.
Good advice
 
Please explain your most prolific experience from beginning to end .

Are you asking me? If so, some of my most recent (last five years or so) have been totally different, more paranormal. Quite a lot of my experiences, for the first time to people outside of witnesses, I related on a podcast that Budd Hopkins talked me into doing as he convinced me that most of us suffer in silence and in fear and I would help them to hear my story... It was Dec.27th or 29th 2007 or 2008 on the Paracast podcast...let me look it up nope 2009 December 27, 2009 — Budd Hopkins and Doug | The Paracast — The Gold Standard of Paranormal Radio

Sorry if I sound stupid on that show, but I was scared, felt like I was breaking very powerful rules talking... It was like a overwhelming phobia I had to break way too fast. Re-started smoking an hour before the show and all these years later, still can not listen to it. My brother whom shared 2 close encounters with me, finally against my strong advice, listened to the show and could not sleep for a week... He totally cracked up and ended up in hospital for 2 weeks... He was broken, crying I was right all along, he was so sorry he did not help me all these decades... His wife, another witness to the desert encounter was not really mad at me, but I had to stay away from the hospital so he could recover. She is just as scared today over 3 decades later, but she will say its all true, but wont talk about it.... Thinks its evil....of the devil

My youngest brother, whom shared a room with me when we were young, came out of the closet after the show and told me after 50 years he saw the UFOs outside our window many times and I was gone,,, Nice , but a little too late as I needed support and help when I was 5 not 58 years old... I talked to my mom for months before agreeing to do that show and I was shocked to hear of her experiences etc.... I got so mad at them coming clean with me, I rarely have anything to do with them... except mom...I suffered a lifetime, they were witnesses and were too scared to be there for me,,,for over 50 f*cking years....and my experiences have never stopped for longer than 5 years, if I was lucky... too late to care now

Do I think about this --of course---it would be impossible to ignore as when you look around you see the weather and everything is normal....when I do, I wonder how surreal this all is and am curious how all these worlds/dimensions work.. why does my brain short circuit sometimes causing these cracks in reality... and how the hell can it engulf people near me sometimes... I don't care anymore and I am no longer scared... could be senility...or with old age you stop giving a shit over stuff you can not change...

And, yes ---I am OK, I have a very loving wife and son whom I love and cherish, every single day... We have everything we need, no debt for over 20 year and ready to retire in less than 4 years. I have my dream retirement place in SE Asia ready to vegetate at... I tell my wife that I might take up drinking when I retire as I deserve relief..... but damn, don't like the taste of any of it... Maybe pot or whatever they call it nowadays... naaaa, they execute you for that in those countries.
 
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Are you asking me? If so, some of my most recent (last five years or so) have been totally different, more paranormal. Quite a lot of my experiences, for the first time to people outside of witnesses, I related on a podcast that Budd Hopkins talked me into doing as he convinced me that most of us suffer in silence and in fear and I would help them to hear my story... It was Dec.27th or 29th 2007 or 2008 on the Paracast podcast...let me look it up nope 2009 December 27, 2009 — Budd Hopkins and Doug | The Paracast — The Gold Standard of Paranormal Radio

Sorry if I sound stupid on that show, but I was scared, felt like I was breaking very powerful rules talking... It was like a overwhelming phobia I had to break way too fast. Re-started smoking an hour before the show and all these years later, still can not listen to it. My brother whom shared 2 close encounters with me, finally against my strong advice, listened to the show and could not sleep for a week... He totally cracked up and ended up in hospital for 2 weeks... He was broken, crying I was right all along, he was so sorry he did not help me all these decades... His wife, another witness to the desert encounter was not really mad at me, but I had to stay away from the hospital so he could recover. She is just as scared today over 3 decades later, but she will say its all true, but wont talk about it.... Thinks its evil....of the devil

My youngest brother, whom shared a room with me when we were young, came out of the closet after the show and told me after 50 years he saw the UFOs outside our window many times and I was gone,,, Nice , but a little too late as I needed support and help when I was 5 not 58 years old... I talked to my mom for months before agreeing to do that show and I was shocked to hear of her experiences etc.... I got so mad at them coming clean with me, I rarely have anything to do with them... except mom...I suffered a lifetime, they were witnesses and were too scared to be there for me,,,for over 50 f*cking years....and my experiences have never stopped for longer than 5 years, if I was lucky... too late to care now

Do I think about this --of course---it would be impossible to ignore as when you look around you see the weather and everything is normal....when I do, I wonder how surreal this all is and am curious how all these worlds/dimensions work.. why does my brain short circuit sometimes causing these cracks in reality... and how the hell can it engulf people near me sometimes... I don't care anymore and I am no longer scared... could be senility...or with old age you stop giving a shit over stuff you can not change...

And, yes ---I am OK, I have a very loving wife and son whom I love and cherish, every single day... We have everything we need, no debt for over 20 year and ready to retire in less than 4 years. I have my dream retirement place in SE Asia ready to vegetate at... I tell my wife that I might take up drinking when I retire as I deserve relief..... but damn, don't like the taste of any of it... Maybe pot or whatever they call it nowadays... naaaa, they execute you for that in those countries.

Did i ever post my rant about "disclosure'" on this site?? let me know at victoriaufo@yahoo.com and I will post if not
Grant, thank you for sharing that. Bob Bain has interviewed Debra Kauble, who was also one of Bud Hopkins witnesses and actually had a book written about her experience by Bud. I have also talked with her myself, and find her experiences and story very credible. She has taken her experience and changed it into something rather positive. You might want to listen to that interview, and I know she has a website where you can reach her.

 
Grant, thank you for sharing that. Bob Bain has interviewed Debra Kauble, who was also one of Bud Hopkins witnesses and actually had a book written about her experience by Bud. I have also talked with her myself, and find her experiences and story very credible. She has taken her experience and changed it into something rather positive. You might want to listen to that interview, and I know she has a website where you can reach her.


Wow, I read about her experience on her website and its the first time I have heard someone else remembering being electrocuted like that. When I relived that with Budd it scared the hell out of him, because he thought I was going to have a heart attack. Budd never would talk about others, he would introduce me to them, say he's heard this or that from many others, but he would keep his opinions to himself.. He was amazingly kind to help us to the huge detriment of his marriages and even his daughter.

I wrote her an email telling her that 5 minutes ago... Thanks for mentioning her details... She looks familiar and that's not from her books as I have never read any on this subject... Never will.. It would be like a woman whom has been violently raped many times reading a book so she can relive the trauma of the rape... not likely.. Maybe I met her at one of Budd's Christmas Art auction parties at his home.

I would not let Budd even consider, or get enough on me to write a book and I did that podcast because I knew he was sick and I owed him alot for being there for me the few times I tried trusting someone for the first time... Linda Napalitano, I think that's her real name, is the woman in the book The Brooklyn bridge Abduction... She warned me over dinner not to let Budd write a book about me as it ruined her life and made it a nightmare for quite a long time.. I was still working for a International bank in New York, so of course I sure knew better than to risk that.

I can see how someone can make helping others as a positive, but you can never make the experience a positive.. but perhaps she only had the one experience, so that would be easier to get over... I will try to find the interview, but it is hard for me to listen to anyone whom might bring back memories/feelings I do not want to bring up again... It's like pulling off a scab on a infected wound, you learn to LEAVE IT ALONE if you can...at least to the next experience that throws you again.

I might rant and rage every five years or so on a website like this, but not for long and then I go back to my life and leave this alone until something throws me for a big loop ad I look around for answers or help I know I will never find.

Thanks for listening and being there for this episode in my journey.. I appreciate your candor and obvious big heart.
 
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Wow, I read about her experience on her website and its the first time I have heard someone else remembering being electrocuted like that. When I relived that with Budd it scared the hell out of him, because he thought I was going to have a heart attack. Budd never would talk about others, he would introduce me to them, say he's heard this or that from many others, but he would keep his opinions to himself.. He was amazingly kind to help us to the huge detriment of his marriages and even his daughter.

I wrote her an email telling her that 5 minutes ago... Thanks for mentioning her details... She looks familiar and that's not from her books as I have never read any on this subject... Never will.. It would be like a woman whom has been violently raped many times reading a book so she can relive the trauma of the rape... not likely.. Maybe I met her at one of Budd's Christmas Art auction parties at his home.

I would not let Budd even consider, or get enough on me to write a book and I did that podcast because I knew he was sick and I owed him alot for being there for me the few times I tried trusting someone for the first time... Linda Napalitano, I think that's her real name, is the woman in the book The Brooklyn bridge Abduction... She warned me over dinner not to let Budd write a book about me as it ruined her life and made it a nightmare for quite a long time.. I was still working for a International bank in New York, so of course I sure knew better than to risk that.

I can see how someone can make helping others as a positive, but you can never make the experience a positive.. but perhaps she only had the one experience, so that would be easier to get over... I will try to find the interview, but it is hard for me to listen to anyone whom might bring back memories/feelings I do not want to bring up again... It's like pulling off a scab on a infected wound, you learn to LEAVE IT ALONE if you can...at least to the next experience that throws you again.

I might rant and rage every five years or so on a website like this, but not for long and then I go back to my life and leave this alone until something throws me for a big loop ad I look around for answers or help I know I will never find.

Thanks for listening and being there for this episode in my journey.. I appreciate your candor and obvious big heart.
We're here anytime, Grant. Hope Deb makes contact with you. Knowing her, she will. She's got a big heart, too, and thanks for the kind words.