Just my imagination?

I really don’t think it’s a coincidence that the activity started up at the same time as she started with the Oujia board. Teens are good at spinning things and she may well have been using it as a divination tool. Education on the subject and a house cleansing is good advice.
 
What makes a Ouija board a Ouija board? You are right about intent and it just being bits of stuff. It sounds like what your daughter was doing was using randomness to access her subconscious and understand herself. I used to do stuff like that at that age. It's a whole different kettle of fish to summoning spirits. Writing the alphabet on a bit of paper and seeing where your own self guides the hand is much different to anything usually associated with Ouija boards in my opinion.
A keyboard is a rectangle with letters and numbers written on it, much like a Ouija board. It doesn't matter what people call a thing, it's how it's used. As long as she's not trying to contact mysterious forces, then I say, "Why worry?". The timing may just be a coincidence or else related in a different way. Perhaps she has some spiritual potential that's awakening and something is homing in on that? I'd say not to jump to conclusions. Your daughter seems pretty smart and so do you. It's only my opinion, but if something is happening , I don't think it's anybodys fault

This is sort of where my thinking has been. I'm not wanting to automatically place blame as it means I would also be ruling out other possibilities. Taking a mental list if everything that's happened in the past 12-18 months, that's what jumps out at me first.
 
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But it's not something to be taken lightly, ouija boards are not a joke, I believe she needs to understand that in case she starts using it again. Or Wicca in general. These things are not something to play around with.

I realize this thread is not particularly recent - BUT - (and I have already had to get into this once this month so I am admittedly a little testy) so -BUT - correlating Wicca and Quija is not only past the base... It's clean out of the park. There is absolutely nothing harmful in the tenet's of Wicca anymore than the tenets of Christianity (just for comparison). Most might think this is a minor flub - but it is not. The practice of labeling any and all Spiritual Paths that fall under the Umbrella of Pagan - as evil or dark or against God or whatever -- stem's from a conditioning by the Church and a laziness in just accepting and not LOOKING at thing's yourself.

Just 2 weeks ago, a good friend of mine who is evangelistic and stationed in Okinawa e-mailed me a frantic letter saying she was being chased, stalked, and afraid -cursed by a 'Coven' of Wicca because of an argument with a co-worker. She was flat out TERRIFIED they were going to catch her and perform some kind of ritual of Satan and take her Soul. This may seem funny to some - but it isn't funny to a Christian who is firmly entrenched in the Hell Fire and Damnation, demon's and witches are they highest order of Satan's minions, teaching's of her chosen Church/Path. To her it was very very real. It took me several days and $200 dollars in phone calls to pull her back enough from the brink of the abyss --that we could work together on some Truths and weed out some False Assumptions -- and eventually get to the crux of what was ACTUALLY happening.

This kind of fear stem's from ignorance which stems from a lack of education/knowledge that is just unacceptable. Period. Wicca IS NOT Witch and Walk's in The Light. Some Witches Walk Light and some Dark - regardless they are completely different and individual Path's... Not even particularly close on the tree. Unless I missed something somewhere Wicca does not maintain Covens. So, Wicca was NOT going to drag her into the dark wood's of the Coven and sacrifice her to Satan. Again, unless I missed something and I doubt that - Wicca couldn't do this thing even if they did have Coven's - The first Tenet of Wicca is --- "And First Do No Harm".

In these day's of darkness descending... The Light can ill afford to turn away Warriors of The Light -- Sisters and Brothers in Spirit - on a technicality of 'they are different so not to be trusted'. We Will Stand Together, Side by Side, in The Light -- or we will perish. Period. Please Please Please Children - put away your blinder's and learn who Walks with you in Spirit. You can not afford to blanket yourself in fallacy and fairy tale's any longer. If we do this thing then maybe, just maybe... we can all Walk out the other side.
 
I realize this thread is not particularly recent - BUT - (and I have already had to get into this once this month so I am admittedly a little testy) so -BUT - correlating Wicca and Quija is not only past the base... It's clean out of the park. There is absolutely nothing harmful in the tenet's of Wicca anymore than the tenets of Christianity (just for comparison). Most might think this is a minor flub - but it is not. The practice of labeling any and all Spiritual Paths that fall under the Umbrella of Pagan - as evil or dark or against God or whatever -- stem's from a conditioning by the Church and a laziness in just accepting and not LOOKING at thing's yourself.

Just 2 weeks ago, a good friend of mine who is evangelistic and stationed in Okinawa e-mailed me a frantic letter saying she was being chased, stalked, and afraid -cursed by a 'Coven' of Wicca because of an argument with a co-worker. She was flat out TERRIFIED they were going to catch her and perform some kind of ritual of Satan and take her Soul. This may seem funny to some - but it isn't funny to a Christian who is firmly entrenched in the Hell Fire and Damnation, demon's and witches are they highest order of Satan's minions, teaching's of her chosen Church/Path. To her it was very very real. It took me several days and $200 dollars in phone calls to pull her back enough from the brink of the abyss --that we could work together on some Truths and weed out some False Assumptions -- and eventually get to the crux of what was ACTUALLY happening.

This kind of fear stem's from ignorance which stems from a lack of education/knowledge that is just unacceptable. Period. Wicca IS NOT Witch and Walk's in The Light. Some Witches Walk Light and some Dark - regardless they are completely different and individual Path's... Not even particularly close on the tree. Unless I missed something somewhere Wicca does not maintain Covens. So, Wicca was NOT going to drag her into the dark wood's of the Coven and sacrifice her to Satan. Again, unless I missed something and I doubt that - Wicca couldn't do this thing even if they did have Coven's - The first Tenet of Wicca is --- "And First Do No Harm".

In these day's of darkness descending... The Light can ill afford to turn away Warriors of The Light -- Sisters and Brothers in Spirit - on a technicality of 'they are different so not to be trusted'. We Will Stand Together, Side by Side, in The Light -- or we will perish. Period. Please Please Please Children - put away your blinder's and learn who Walks with you in Spirit. You can not afford to blanket yourself in fallacy and fairy tale's any longer. If we do this thing then maybe, just maybe... we can all Walk out the other side.

My neighbor she is 55 yrs old, and came from a family of Wicca. And I don't know alot about Wicca she got out of it, because it was not what she was told by her family. She is hated by many in the "group" that her family was with. I have been down there many times when they call her and threatening her.Again it is not what I know but what I was told.
Now I remember I had a white magic book long ago was told it is for good. As I was reading threw it there was a recipe for witches cake. And reading it it would bring harm to the person. After reading that I got rid of it. Now IMO people work it the way they want to.i am NOT an ANYWAY putting no one down for what they believe in.
I think in all religions either church or whatever in certain ppl twist it to what they want. I have met and known many ppl from all different types of religion and most were very nice and some I wish I never knew.
But IMO I think people should look at WHO the person is before judging what there faith/belief is.
 
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correlating Wicca and Quija is not only past the base... It's clean out of the park.
Yup. The Wiccan here is gonna explain this one more time for everyone.

Wicca is a religion. Witchcraft is a practice of manipulating energy through spells. NOT ALL WICCANS ARE WITCHES. It's actually a very peaceful religion and recognized as a religion by the govenment. Many Wiccans actually do pray to the very same God everybody else does....heck, it's only ONE source anyway, imo.

The Ouija Board is a tool. So, here we have it. One is a religion, one is a practice, the other is a tool...which when you don't know how to use it can be a very, very, very bad thing.

Thank you, Darcy, for helping separate them all into the proper categories.
 
Sorry, didn't mean to start the Wicca, Witches and Ouija debate. Originally my daughter said the board was a scientific way of looking at her own subconscious, but with her interest in Wicca shortly after it made me second guess her story. Especially because she tends to use the terms Wiccan and Witch interchangeably. I have discussed with her some of the activity I've seen. She doesn't seem to have experienced anything similar. She has a few Himalayan salt lamps in her room and thinks that might help ward off anything negative. She actually gave one to my son as a night light to see if that has any effect.

I'venot said anything to my son yet, he's more susceptible to the power of suggestion so I want to be very careful with what I tell him.

Since my original post I have tried to make a point of being the last one out of the house when the family heads out for school and work. In those few minutes when everyone is out getting in the car I'm saying some quick prayers out loud and announcing to the empty house that nothing is welcome in this home and commanding anything which may be there to leave and never return. I've not seen or experienced anything recently but so far almost all my experiences have several weeks in between.

Thanks to everyone for the input and support.
 
Sorry, didn't mean to start the Wicca, Witches and Ouija debate. Originally my daughter said the board was a scientific way of looking at her own subconscious, but with her interest in Wicca shortly after it made me second guess her story. Especially because she tends to use the terms Wiccan and Witch interchangeably. I have discussed with her some of the activity I've seen. She doesn't seem to have experienced anything similar. She has a few Himalayan salt lamps in her room and thinks that might help ward off anything negative. She actually gave one to my son as a night light to see if that has any effect.

I'venot said anything to my son yet, he's more susceptible to the power of suggestion so I want to be very careful with what I tell him.

Since my original post I have tried to make a point of being the last one out of the house when the family heads out for school and work. In those few minutes when everyone is out getting in the car I'm saying some quick prayers out loud and announcing to the empty house that nothing is welcome in this home and commanding anything which may be there to leave and never return. I've not seen or experienced anything recently but so far almost all my experiences have several weeks in between.

Thanks to everyone for the input and support.


Steve dog please don't take offense to what was said! Unfortunately alot of ppl get them mixed up or they NOT all but change what it really is for. Like the neighbor of mine. They are generational Wiccan but the "group" generational people have changed what they do or are. No one is upset trust me been in your place thinking I upset someone. You are fine.
 
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Sorry, didn't mean to start the Wicca, Witches and Ouija debate. Originally my daughter said the board was a scientific way of looking at her own subconscious, but with her interest in Wicca shortly after it made me second guess her story. Especially because she tends to use the terms Wiccan and Witch interchangeably. I have discussed with her some of the activity I've seen. She doesn't seem to have experienced anything similar. She has a few Himalayan salt lamps in her room and thinks that might help ward off anything negative. She actually gave one to my son as a night light to see if that has any effect.

I'venot said anything to my son yet, he's more susceptible to the power of suggestion so I want to be very careful with what I tell him.

Since my original post I have tried to make a point of being the last one out of the house when the family heads out for school and work. In those few minutes when everyone is out getting in the car I'm saying some quick prayers out loud and announcing to the empty house that nothing is welcome in this home and commanding anything which may be there to leave and never return. I've not seen or experienced anything recently but so far almost all my experiences have several weeks in between.

Thanks to everyone for the input and support.
Just keep that up, Steve. You're doing well. Glad to hear you have a good grasp on it.
 
Sorry, didn't mean to start the Wicca, Witches and Ouija debate. Originally my daughter said the board was a scientific way of looking at her own subconscious, but with her interest in Wicca shortly after it made me second guess her story. Especially because she tends to use the terms Wiccan and Witch interchangeably. I have discussed with her some of the activity I've seen. She doesn't seem to have experienced anything similar. She has a few Himalayan salt lamps in her room and thinks that might help ward off anything negative. She actually gave one to my son as a night light to see if that has any effect.

I didn't mean to insinuate your Voice/Opinion angered or upset me. I have found In this Home, unless you are directly attacking or dealing or attempting to deal in one of the few 'Debi says NO's' found under 'member information' - you are very much allowed to be who you are and speak freely. Believe me... I know I take a great deal of patience to deal with. :D On the other hand - you will get many views of a thing pretty truthfully. So an open-mind works both ways.

I posted my comment as I did because it is what I do... literally... I have worked tirelessly and to the point of exhaustion for way to many year's, attempting to build bridge's of truth and communication between the many scattered ideologies who in the end in TRUTH, have more in common then they have differences. I have done this work for the sake of The Light and I'm not complaining... I have had limited success but I have at the least been able to forge bond's between individuals that will then pass those bond's along to other's and eventually the Bridge will become a Lighthouse. If you see. If not in my lifetime. So I KNOW many Houses are quite capable of becoming ONE House... whether those who hold the Keys like it or not. That is success enough.

A HUGE part of this is overcoming fear. My own and in other's. The only way to deal with the fear so deeply embed/sown within us all is through Truth. You have to locate the boogie man and slay it. To a one of us, that boogie man is made of misinformation which leads to faulty connections. The deeper the fraud the scarier the face.

It is not my place to attempt to change the ideology - I definitely do not have that right of judgement. But I do have the authority to untangle misinformation if I see it. As do we all. That is a neutral, non-tangible thing. Hate me or Love me - I don't care in that. But don't do either out of fear or a false place. Is my point. The comment was not directed at you Stevedog - it was directed at misinformation. :LLAP
 
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My neighbor she is 55 yrs old, and came from a family of Wicca. And I don't know alot about Wicca she got out of it, because it was not what she was told by her family. She is hated by many in the "group" that her family was with. I have been down there many times when they call her and threatening her.Again it is not what I know but what I was told.
Now I remember I had a white magic book long ago was told it is for good. As I was reading threw it there was a recipe for witches cake. And reading it it would bring harm to the person. After reading that I got rid of it. Now IMO people work it the way they want to.i am NOT an ANYWAY putting no one down for what they believe in.
I think in all religions either church or whatever in certain ppl twist it to what they want. I have met and known many ppl from all different types of religion and most were very nice and some I wish I never knew.
But IMO I think people should look at WHO the person is before judging what there faith/belief is.

Well there you have pinpointed the thing Mom. Naming yourself something means nothing or anything. Truly BEING that thing is where the Sacredness lies. In every Spiritual Path there are way more individuals that SAY it then those who actually Walk it. So and sadly, the beauty of the few is judged by the ugliness of the the many - who are really only empty space. Nothing. Empty. Just because that is established practice does not mean WE should not defend the beauty. To do that we have to actually LOOK for it - personally - as individuals.

ow I remember I had a white magic book long ago was told it is for good. As I was reading threw it there was a recipe for witches cake. And reading it it would bring harm to the person.

I am going to offer you the greatest Wisdom I have learned Mom. All True Sacredness is free. It can not be owned so can't be sold. If some tells you "buy my book, listen to my lecture, come to my training --and I will give you Sacredness - all for only 39.99" That is a lie. Period.