A fun example of a prophetic dream (a.k.a., premonition)...

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Paulm correctly challenged me in another thread (“Foreseeing disasters in dreams”) to consider that I might be having prophetic dreams even if I don’t necessarily recall those dreams. And I did consider same; and, I recalled two specific distant past dream-state premonitions. The premonition I’m sharing below happened in 1996. I’m a little resistant to share this event for a couple of reasons but here it goes...I am sharing it with you all in sequential time order.

It is very rare that I dream about myself in third person but I recall with certainly that this was one of those rare instances. This dream was actually a premonition but I would not recognize that until 24 hours later.

In my “dream” I saw myself standing next to my bed. I interpreted from the color, intensity, and angle of the natural light coming into the bedroom that it was morning - guessing about 7AM or so. I was holding a California lottery ticket in my hand and I was talking through the winning numbers. [Because I can’t recall the actual numbers now 20 years later I’m just going to refer to them in this way...] “First winning number, second winning number, third winning number, fourth...what...”. Just then I woke up! But, I was still repeating those numbers even now that I was awake - “First winning number, second winning number, third winning number, fourth...what...! DOH! I can’t recall the fourth number! And, I can’t recall the fifth and sixth numbers either!” I quickly started over cycling through the numbers again in sequence and DOH still can’t recall more than the first three numbers. It is then that I recognize I woke up from my dream-state at the exact moment I was about to “announce” the fourth number. I was so actually pissed at myself...er...because I could not remember lottery numbers from a dream. For realz?

I didn’t think anything more about the dream and went about my daily Saturday routines. At some point in the day. I found myself in the local liquor store. So I did what I did on some regular frequency, I bought a quick pick lottery ticket for the lottery draw happening that same night. For anyone not familiar with tossing cash into the lottery money pit, a “quick pick” is the lazy choice that allows the computer to randomly select six numbers for you instead of investing your own ego into making your own six choices.

I went about my remaining Saturday evening routines and ultimately slipped into bed.

I got up on Sunday morning and turned on the TV to watch the local news broadcast. During that program the winning lottery numbers drawn the prior night were announced. Recalling that I dropped my lottery ticket on my night stand, I walked back to my bedroom, picked up the ticket, stood next to my bed, in the 7AM morning light, and started comparing the numbers on my ticket against those announced on the news just moments earlier. “First winning number (check I have it), second winning number (yeppers got that on my ticket too), third winning number (yyyyeeessss got it), fourth winning number (I’ve got that one too), fifth and six winning numbers (Not!!!!). Darn it. Well I’ve got four numbers which is worth $75.”

“Wait! My dream from yesterday morning! I had a ticket with three winning numbers! But I recall those numbers were, ‘...first winning number, second winning number, third winning, fourth winning number, ...’. Waaaaiiiitt, I couldn’t recall the fourth number yesterday morning but now I can.”

I looked at my ticket again. The first four numbers on my quick pick ticket purchased mid-day the prior day contained the same first three numbers plus the fourth winning number that were also in my (now clearly prophetic) dream from 24 hours ago. And, At that moment I was once again recognizing the exact same pissed off feeling because now though I could remember the fourth number, I couldn’t recall the fifth and sixth numbers from my dream.

Hello premonition.

The one thing I personally find most interesting about this occurrence is that though I had a dream about a potential winning lottery ticket - and I could clearly recall the first three winning numbers - I did not elect to pick my own numbers on the lottery ticket I purchased on Saturday afternoon. I elected for a computer-generated quick pick instead. And, I still won $75...with the same four numbers!
 
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Cool experience....... One which also opens up / crosses over to a whole new philosophical topic or debate. That being whether you believe in destiny no matter your choices or do you believe in self controlled outcomes due to free will.....was it meant/destined that that was what you were going to win, no matter what. or is there a way you could have actually remembered the dream numbers and changed the outcome. Hmmmm.....gotta think about this a little bit.....there is a third option but I've got to gather my thoughts first on that one.....lol
 
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Paulm correctly challenged me in another thread (“Foreseeing disasters in dreams”) to consider that I might be having prophetic dreams even if I don’t necessarily recall those dreams. And I did consider same; and, I recalled two specific distant past dream-state premonitions. The premonition I’m sharing below happened in 1996. I’m a little resistant to share this event for a couple of reasons but here it goes...I am sharing it with you all in sequential time order.

It is very rare that I dream about myself in third person but I recall with certainly that this was one of those rare instances. This dream was actually a premonition but I would not recognize that until 24 hours later.

In my “dream” I saw myself standing next to my bed. I interpreted from the color, intensity, and angle of the natural light coming into the bedroom that it was morning - guessing about 7AM or so. I was holding a California lottery ticket in my hand and I was talking through the winning numbers. [Because I can’t recall the actual numbers now 20 years later I’m just going to refer to them in this way...] “First winning number, second winning number, third winning number, fourth...what...”. Just then I woke up! But, I was still repeating those numbers even now that I was awake - “First winning number, second winning number, third winning number, fourth...what...! DOH! I can’t recall the fourth number! And, I can’t recall the fifth and sixth numbers either!” I quickly started over cycling through the numbers again in sequence and DOH still can’t recall more than the first three numbers. It is then that I recognize I woke up from my dream-state at the exact moment I was about to “announce” the fourth number. I was so actually pissed at myself...er...because I could not remember lottery numbers from a dream. For realz?

I didn’t think anything more about the dream and went about my daily Saturday routines. At some point in the day. I found myself in the local liquor store. So I did what I did on some regular frequency, I bought a quick pick lottery ticket for the lottery draw happening that same night. For anyone not familiar with tossing cash into the lottery money pit, a “quick pick” is the lazy choice that allows the computer to randomly select six numbers for you instead of investing your own ego into making your own six choices.

I went about my remaining Saturday evening routines and ultimately slipped into bed.

I got up on Sunday morning and turned on the TV to watch the local news broadcast. During that program the winning lottery numbers drawn the prior night were announced. Recalling that I dropped my lottery ticket on my night stand, I walked back to my bedroom, picked up the ticket, stood next to my bed, in the 7AM morning light, and started comparing the numbers on my ticket against those announced on the news just moments earlier. “First winning number (check I have it), second winning number (yeppers got that on my ticket too), third winning number (yyyyeeessss got it), fourth winning number (I’ve got that one too), fifth and six winning numbers (Not!!!!). Darn it. Well I’ve got four numbers which is worth $75.”

“Wait! My dream from yesterday morning! I had a ticket with three winning numbers! But I recall those numbers were, ‘...first winning number, second winning number, third winning, fourth winning number, ...’. Waaaaiiiitt, I couldn’t recall the fourth number yesterday morning but now I can.”

I looked at my ticket again. The first four numbers on my quick pick ticket purchased mid-day the prior day contained the same first three numbers plus the fourth winning number that were also in my (now clearly prophetic) dream from 24 hours ago. And, At that moment I was once again recognizing the exact same pissed off feeling because now though I could remember the fourth number, I couldn’t recall the fifth and sixth numbers from my dream.

Hello premonition.

The one thing I personally find most interesting about this occurrence is that though I had a dream about a potential winning lottery ticket - and I could clearly recall the first three winning numbers - I did not elect to pick my own numbers on the lottery ticket I purchased on Saturday afternoon. I elected for a computer-generated quick pick instead. And, I still won $75...with the same four numbers!
Very cool experience. I once had a lottery dream. I wrote down the numbers when I woke in my dream journal. Still playing those numbers....sigh.
 
Cool experience....... One which also opens up / crosses over to a whole new philosophical topic or debate. That being whether you believe in destiny no matter your choices or do you believe in self controlled outcomes due to free will.....was it meant/destined that that was what you were going to win, no matter what. or is there a way you could have actually remembered the dream numbers and changed the outcome. Hmmmm.....gotta think about this a little bit.....there is a third option but I've got to gather my thoughts first on that one.....lol

You take your time Paulm. I plan to be here to have that discussion when you are ready.
 
You take your time Paulm. I plan to be here to have that discussion when you are ready.

OK....the third option is hard to explain in detail without writing what would amount to being a book, so I'll try to at least get the basic idea going.
Simply put its just " perception is reality ", at the time of this happening did you lean towards destiny or did you believe more that you were in control. Or were you somewhere in between. ( destiny, then you were only able to do what happened, and it would've been the same possibly even without the dream part all together ) ( you control your own outcome.....then you are able to see the missing numbers ) (somewhere in between, ...same outcome but with half the dream, perhaps that could be a breakthrough of sorts, letting you know you are on to opening another level of perception)
It has to be how you felt at that time because our beliefs or how we perceive things change with our experiences. Some for the best and we grow from them and then some we don't understand and get stuck for a while.
I know I'm probably not explaining this all that well but maybe its giving you some ideas. There's a lot of info you can research and meditate on....so basically what you believe ,think,even say, can hinder your progress or push you further along to a new level........
Does any of that make a bit of sense.......lol
 
“...at the time of this happening did you lean towards destiny or did you believe more that you were in control.”



I am so open (and possibly ready) to have this discussion Paulm. However, I think that your question/statement I’ve quoted here is a little skewed. In all of the lengthy text I posted it is reasonably easy to miss my point that I didn’t initially see this dream as prophetic/premonition. It took 24 hours for me to realize that it was in fact a premonition.

So Paulm, during the approximate 23 hours after waking from the dream, I was quite confidently just living another day in my mundane life. I wasn’t consciously thinking at all during that period about what was about to re-occur or re-play hence I was not thinking about destiny either.

So you up to a discussion about premonitions, destiny, and the like Paulm even knowing I was a relative zombie during those 23 hours in question? I can certainly use that same example experience as a frame of reference just the same as long as we work from the understanding that I can’t today provide any meaningful insight into the ignorant mindlessness of the me of that 23 hour period.
 
OK....the third option is hard to explain in detail without writing what would amount to being a book, so I'll try to at least get the basic idea going.
Simply put its just " perception is reality ", at the time of this happening did you lean towards destiny or did you believe more that you were in control. Or were you somewhere in between. ( destiny, then you were only able to do what happened, and it would've been the same possibly even without the dream part all together ) ( you control your own outcome.....then you are able to see the missing numbers ) (somewhere in between, ...same outcome but with half the dream, perhaps that could be a breakthrough of sorts, letting you know you are on to opening another level of perception)
It has to be how you felt at that time because our beliefs or how we perceive things change with our experiences. Some for the best and we grow from them and then some we don't understand and get stuck for a while.
I know I'm probably not explaining this all that well but maybe its giving you some ideas. There's a lot of info you can research and meditate on....so basically what you believe ,think,even say, can hinder your progress or push you further along to a new level........
Does any of that make a bit of sense.......lol

Paulm, I neglected to say that most of your musing did in fact make sense. I just wanted to offer up thru my prior post the option of discussing all of this in a better context.
 
I have nothing to add to this...yet. But I am enjoying reading this thread!

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“...at the time of this happening did you lean towards destiny or did you believe more that you were in control.”



I am so open (and possibly ready) to have this discussion Paulm. However, I think that your question/statement I’ve quoted here is a little skewed. In all of the lengthy text I posted it is reasonably easy to miss my point that I didn’t initially see this dream as prophetic/premonition. It took 24 hours for me to realize that it was in fact a premonition.

So Paulm, during the approximate 23 hours after waking from the dream, I was quite confidently just living another day in my mundane life. I wasn’t consciously thinking at all during that period about what was about to re-occur or re-play hence I was not thinking about destiny either.

The fact that you didn't remember the dream at all is not surprising, ( I think my responce on the other thread started with most ppl don't remember until after the occurrence takes place )
Its not what you were thinking afterward, but what you believed you were capable of in that period of time. Not what you were thinking but what you actually believed ( because that's always with you, subconsciously, and can help or hinder how you respond to stimuli, in this case, premonitions of course)....that's the whole " perception is reality" thing....lol
Maybe that experiance was an awakening of sorts, the first of what could be a new journey for you with practice and nurturing.
Have you ever had experiences with controlling your dreams ( lucid dreaming ), that may be a good exercise to try. And writing down your dreams as Debi stated above.