A fun example of a prophetic dream (a.k.a., premonition)...

Paulm correctly challenged me in another thread (“Foreseeing disasters in dreams”) to consider that I might be having prophetic dreams even if I don’t necessarily recall those dreams. And I did consider same; and, I recalled two specific distant past dream-state premonitions. The premonition I’m sharing below happened in 1996. I’m a little resistant to share this event for a couple of reasons but here it goes...I am sharing it with you all in sequential time order.

It is very rare that I dream about myself in third person but I recall with certainly that this was one of those rare instances. This dream was actually a premonition but I would not recognize that until 24 hours later.

In my “dream” I saw myself standing next to my bed. I interpreted from the color, intensity, and angle of the natural light coming into the bedroom that it was morning - guessing about 7AM or so. I was holding a California lottery ticket in my hand and I was talking through the winning numbers. [Because I can’t recall the actual numbers now 20 years later I’m just going to refer to them in this way...] “First winning number, second winning number, third winning number, fourth...what...”. Just then I woke up! But, I was still repeating those numbers even now that I was awake - “First winning number, second winning number, third winning number, fourth...what...! DOH! I can’t recall the fourth number! And, I can’t recall the fifth and sixth numbers either!” I quickly started over cycling through the numbers again in sequence and DOH still can’t recall more than the first three numbers. It is then that I recognize I woke up from my dream-state at the exact moment I was about to “announce” the fourth number. I was so actually pissed at myself...er...because I could not remember lottery numbers from a dream. For realz?

I didn’t think anything more about the dream and went about my daily Saturday routines. At some point in the day. I found myself in the local liquor store. So I did what I did on some regular frequency, I bought a quick pick lottery ticket for the lottery draw happening that same night. For anyone not familiar with tossing cash into the lottery money pit, a “quick pick” is the lazy choice that allows the computer to randomly select six numbers for you instead of investing your own ego into making your own six choices.

I went about my remaining Saturday evening routines and ultimately slipped into bed.

I got up on Sunday morning and turned on the TV to watch the local news broadcast. During that program the winning lottery numbers drawn the prior night were announced. Recalling that I dropped my lottery ticket on my night stand, I walked back to my bedroom, picked up the ticket, stood next to my bed, in the 7AM morning light, and started comparing the numbers on my ticket against those announced on the news just moments earlier. “First winning number (check I have it), second winning number (yeppers got that on my ticket too), third winning number (yyyyeeessss got it), fourth winning number (I’ve got that one too), fifth and six winning numbers (Not!!!!). Darn it. Well I’ve got four numbers which is worth $75.”

“Wait! My dream from yesterday morning! I had a ticket with three winning numbers! But I recall those numbers were, ‘...first winning number, second winning number, third winning, fourth winning number, ...’. Waaaaiiiitt, I couldn’t recall the fourth number yesterday morning but now I can.”

I looked at my ticket again. The first four numbers on my quick pick ticket purchased mid-day the prior day contained the same first three numbers plus the fourth winning number that were also in my (now clearly prophetic) dream from 24 hours ago. And, At that moment I was once again recognizing the exact same pissed off feeling because now though I could remember the fourth number, I couldn’t recall the fifth and sixth numbers from my dream.

Hello premonition.

The one thing I personally find most interesting about this occurrence is that though I had a dream about a potential winning lottery ticket - and I could clearly recall the first three winning numbers - I did not elect to pick my own numbers on the lottery ticket I purchased on Saturday afternoon. I elected for a computer-generated quick pick instead. And, I still won $75...with the same four numbers!
That’s because In the dream you were seeing what had already happened in the future. If time is happening all at once or non existent in the spirit realm your spirit may have given you a preview. It’s a mind bender for sure. Just tossing out ideas.
 
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OK....the third option is hard to explain in detail without writing what would amount to being a book, so I'll try to at least get the basic idea going.
Simply put its just " perception is reality ", at the time of this happening did you lean towards destiny or did you believe more that you were in control. Or were you somewhere in between. ( destiny, then you were only able to do what happened, and it would've been the same possibly even without the dream part all together ) ( you control your own outcome.....then you are able to see the missing numbers ) (somewhere in between, ...same outcome but with half the dream, perhaps that could be a breakthrough of sorts, letting you know you are on to opening another level of perception)
It has to be how you felt at that time because our beliefs or how we perceive things change with our experiences. Some for the best and we grow from them and then some we don't understand and get stuck for a while.
I know I'm probably not explaining this all that well but maybe its giving you some ideas. There's a lot of info you can research and meditate on....so basically what you believe ,think,even say, can hinder your progress or push you further along to a new level........
Does any of that make a bit of sense.......lol
Are you saying basically that belief in what you see in the dream creates the future reality?
 
Are you saying basically that belief in what you see in the dream creates the future reality?

more like what you believe at the time of the dream determines whether it will be prophetic.
 
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ill try to describe that with this..... most ppl go through life with just what they've been taught or exposed to, creating their own beliefs and capabilities. but every so often you get a glimpse of something, a taste, (if you will), of something more.... now most ppl just write this off as deja vu or just something weird, they just say "hmmm, that's strange" and go on with their everyday life., but a very few ppl want to know more and will start searching out answers, usually through religion because that's where most ppl's first thought of the paranormal begins, so they will go from one belief system to the next, maybe then into far east type meditations and so forth until you re back at the beginning, essentially they've gone full circle, but still don't have the answers they are looking for. they may be further along than when they started but they (without realizing it) are still hindered, only now because of the rules of whatever system they've chosen to follow... it used to be easier to find info or training but in the past 20 or so years, the new age fad has crept into every form of the paranormal and has muddied up the waters to the extent that nothing is as simple as it should be....take for instance empath abilities. use to be easy to be trained to hone those abilities, now days the first questions are "what kind of empath" are you, or "so you can or cant do this or that". well for someone searching for answers that is just even more confusing... I meen when you try to find info on something as simple as zen meditation and theres a whole section on the different sects of zen its ridiculous and really confusing to a new person just learning. the whole concept of zen is nothingness but seems now you have to buy 5000 books to get to nothing...lol..... anyway I guess my point is to get back to the simple answers first....lol....change how you believe and change your reality.
 
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We create our reality. Proven now through science that we do affect the energy around us through intention. So, my theory here is what we believe acts as a filter to how we perceive....and our perception is our world. Change the filter, change the perception. :)
 
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The fact that you didn't remember the dream at all is not surprising, ( I think my responce on the other thread started with most ppl don't remember until after the occurrence takes place )
Its not what you were thinking afterward, but what you believed you were capable of in that period of time. Not what you were thinking but what you actually believed ( because that's always with you, subconsciously, and can help or hinder how you respond to stimuli, in this case, premonitions of course)....that's the whole " perception is reality" thing....lol
Maybe that experiance was an awakening of sorts, the first of what could be a new journey for you with practice and nurturing.
Have you ever had experiences with controlling your dreams ( lucid dreaming ), that may be a good exercise to try. And writing down your dreams as Debi stated above.


I apologize in being slow to respond Paulm when you have been thoughtful enough to share this serious detail.

So yes, I have certainly had lucid dreams. To the best of my recollection, I might have one lucid dream every two years. My dreams turn lucid most typically because I will see - and process - something that is incongruous with reality. At that point i recognize I’m dreaming and I take control of the dream at least from an observers perspective.

This specific dream regarding the lottery ticket is the first of only two prophetic dreams that I can recall. The second of the two is too raw and controversial for me to talk about at this time.

I’m gonna check out your most recent post Paul and comment on your musings there.
 
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That’s because In the dream you were seeing what had already happened in the future. If time is happening all at once or non existent in the spirit realm your spirit may have given you a preview. It’s a mind bender for sure. Just tossing out ideas.

Isn’t that some insightful stuff Lynne. I’m uncertain if you have just two or twelve ideas embedded in there.

The one aspect I am continuously trying to figure out - as if that point might help me to unravel other aspects and causes - is why is it that I seem only to see as far as 48 hours into the future? There has only ever been one instance that I can recall where I had a premonition more than two days prior to the actual real life event occurring; and that one time, I saw the future several years in advance. Like many other instances, I only realized I’d seen the future once the real life event happened in real time years later.
 
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Isn’t that some insightful stuff Lynne. I’m uncertain if you have just two or twelve ideas embedded in there.

The one aspect I am continuously trying to figure out - as if that point might help me to unravel other aspects and causes - is why is it that I seem only to see as far as 48 hours into the future? There has only ever been one instance that I can recall where I had a premonition more than two days prior to the actual real life event occurring; and that one time, I saw the future several years in advance. Like many other instances, I only realized I’d seen the future once the real life event happened in real time years later.
I wonder if this is because the closer in time the premonition is, the less chance there is of change. Perhaps the further out in time it goes, free will and intentions can change things? This time stuff makes my head hurt.
 
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I wonder if this is because the closer in time the premonition is, the less chance there is of change. Perhaps the further out in time it goes, free will and intentions can change things? This time stuff makes my head hurt.

Bingo! That is exactly my perception Lynne. I’ve got several theories on the hows and the how nots of this supposed phenomenon. But in the past couple of years, I’ve come to suspect the following as a possibility.

Maybe free will, chaos theory, etc. doesn’t have as “much time available” to materially impact happenings in our perceived sequential nature of time over just the next two days; but after that 48 hour threshold the statistical probabilities for change and the sheer number of variables both increase by an astronomically steep percentage. In which case maybe my mind or my spirit cannot - or is not willing to - see into the uncertainty beyond that 48 hours.
 
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Bingo! That is exactly my perception Lynne. I’ve got several theories on the hows and the how nots of this supposed phenomenon. But in the past couple of years, I’ve come to suspect the following as a possibility.

Maybe free will, chaos theory, etc. doesn’t have as “much time available” to materially impact happenings in our perceived sequential nature of time over just the next two days; but after that 48 hour threshold the statistical probabilities for change and the sheer number of variables both increase by an astronomically steep percentage. In which case maybe my mind or my spirit cannot - or is not willing to - see into the uncertainty beyond that 48 hours.
Or your seeing a prophetic dream but because the future has changed you don’t recognize it. :D
 
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